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Social distancing and wearing masks
Posted on 4/24/20 at 4:16 pm
Posted on 4/24/20 at 4:16 pm
If you remove the "hospital overload" concern from the equation, is there any value to either of these things, given the latest scientific research?
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Posted on 4/24/20 at 4:17 pm to RidiculousHype
As long as there are air conditioners, we’re in danger.
This post was edited on 4/24/20 at 4:22 pm
Posted on 4/24/20 at 4:18 pm to RidiculousHype
I think distancing is more important than masks.
I laugh at the morons in grocery stores etc with their little handkerchief over their mouth. I’m not going to cough on you Boomer.
I laugh at the morons in grocery stores etc with their little handkerchief over their mouth. I’m not going to cough on you Boomer.
Posted on 4/24/20 at 4:20 pm to slinger1317
quote:You still do not understand that the mask protects others, not you. So, them having that over their face is to protect you if they cough or similar. You sound like someone that just thinks he sounds tough by calling people "boomers."
I laugh at the morons in grocery stores etc with their little handkerchief over their mouth. I’m not going to cough on you Boomer.
Posted on 4/24/20 at 4:20 pm to RidiculousHype
There likely is value to social distancing. With respect to cloth masks, used properly there may be some value, but I don't think there is widespread proper use.
Posted on 4/24/20 at 4:22 pm to slinger1317
The people wearing masks driving by themselves in their cars are the best. I will not wear a mask. Should stores dictate an individual wear them to enter I will have to comply with the private business but there is no way to enforce us to wear them in public from the government.
Posted on 4/24/20 at 4:22 pm to PearlJam
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With respect to cloth masks, used properly there may be some value, but I don't think there is widespread proper use.
Like the poster before you said, the value is to those around the mask wearer, not the mask wearer themselves.
Posted on 4/24/20 at 4:23 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
What does that have to do with what I said?
Posted on 4/24/20 at 4:24 pm to PearlJam
quote:
There likely is value to social distancing.
What is that value?
Posted on 4/24/20 at 4:24 pm to RidiculousHype
Reduced spread of a contagious disease.
Posted on 4/24/20 at 4:25 pm to RidiculousHype
Makes the sheep feel safe and protected
Posted on 4/24/20 at 4:29 pm to RidiculousHype
quote:
What is that value?
Look at New York City where they have essentially the opposite of social distancing
How is that working out for them?
Posted on 4/24/20 at 4:33 pm to PearlJam
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What does that have to do with what I said?
The improper use is in reference to touching the mask while wearing it. Well that sure makes it less effective for the wearer preventing the virus but it still holds value for the general public because the mask still keeps germs from spreading.
Sooooo wearing masks in public holds value as long as it is over the mouth and nose even if the wearer practices improper personal hygiene skills.
Posted on 4/24/20 at 4:33 pm to RidiculousHype
quote:
If you remove the "hospital overload" concern from the equation
You understand that people are dying from this even with proper care, correct?
Posted on 4/24/20 at 4:36 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
quote:Not if the general public is, at a large rate, improperly wearing masks. Any prevention provided by the mask is more than negated by the increased risks of repeated face touchings caused by the mask wearing.
Sooooo wearing masks in public holds value as long as it is over the mouth and nose even if the wearer practices improper personal hygiene skills.
This post was edited on 4/24/20 at 4:38 pm
Posted on 4/24/20 at 4:38 pm to TigerDog83
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I will not wear a mask.
You're such a fricking Rebel.
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Should stores dictate an individual wear them to enter I will have to comply with the private business
Unless there are rules in place cuz while you are a rebel, you don't want risk losing any luxuries in life.
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but there is no way to enforce us to wear them in public from the government.
But frick the government man.... Unless they DO find a way to enforce it and then you will wear a mask cuz you only follow rules if the teacher is watching like a middle schooler.
Posted on 4/24/20 at 4:40 pm to RidiculousHype
Can you imagine kids trying to keep masks on all day at school
Even the older kids will struggle.
Even the older kids will struggle.
Posted on 4/24/20 at 4:42 pm to PearlJam
quote:
Not if the general public is, at a large rate, improperly wearing masks. Any prevention provided by the mask is more than negated by the increased risks of repeated face touchings caused by the mask wearing.
The repeated face touching puts the mask wearer at further risk. Even if they touch their face and get germs on their hand and then touch something, the germs are only on the thing they touched. If they sneeze or cough, the germs remain contained within the mask (I know its not 100% containment but its much better than nothing). So instead of their cough germs being everywhere (including the air) cuz nothing is covering their mouth and nose, the germs are only on the things they actually touch.
So the masks hold value regardless.
Posted on 4/24/20 at 4:44 pm to PearlJam
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Reduced spread of a contagious disease.
That’s what I’ve been assuming as well.
But how does that square with this statement by the Stanford scientist?
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In fact, infected people without severe illness are the immediately available vehicle for establishing widespread immunity. By transmitting the virus to others in the low-risk group who then generate antibodies, they block the network of pathways toward the most vulnerable people, ultimately ending the threat.
Posted on 4/24/20 at 4:46 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
quote:Correct. Are we not considering that a large percentage of people will be mask wearers? Is the low value of them possible protecting a sneeze or cough not heavily outweighed by increasing face touching by a large factor?
The repeated face touching puts the mask wearer at further risk.
quote:Not if the wearing of the masks causes more harm than good.
So the masks hold value regardless.
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