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re: 150 deaths
Posted on 4/10/20 at 10:18 am to the808bass
Posted on 4/10/20 at 10:18 am to the808bass
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Well, frick all those people, too. Especially the type 1 diabetics.
Oh, what’s that? Your 66 year old parent has Hypertension? Well, they deserve to die so we can just exclude their case from the data.
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Posted on 4/10/20 at 10:19 am to Antonio Moss
quote:And those measures bankrupt hospitals, especially those smaller ones in underserved areas or rural areas.
Did you think social restriction measures were going to increase non-emergent medical appointments?
80% of providers are shutdown. Of course, there is going to a reduction in medical employment. Most doctors aren’t pulmonologist and ER physicians.
But whatever.
I mean, those rich hospitals and doctors probably deserve it.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 10:19 am to Homesick Tiger
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As a recovered asthmatic, I hope you say that in jest.
808 did by pointing out that this affects different groups. Do you even sarcasm bro?
Posted on 4/10/20 at 10:22 am to Antonio Moss
So you're telling me that in the midst of this once in a century HEALTH pandemic, it makes sense that HEALTH related workers nationwide should be standing around in empty hospitals.
Or could it just be that the models got it wrong?
Or could it just be that the models got it wrong?
Posted on 4/10/20 at 10:24 am to Dr Rosenrosen
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So you're telling me that in the midst of this once in a century HEALTH pandemic, it makes sense that HEALTH related workers nationwide should be standing around in empty hospitals.
It does make sense that orthopedic surgeons and their staffs aren’t working. That OTs and PTs have less work. That the gastroenterologist isn’t doing his normal number of procedures.
I don’t think you’ve thought this idea through.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 10:29 am to the808bass
I don't think you understand, sir!
Resources in the hospital industry were diverted because of these ridiculous models. Now we have empty hospitals and cuts in healthcare to go along with the other 20 million jobs we just threw away.
Resources in the hospital industry were diverted because of these ridiculous models. Now we have empty hospitals and cuts in healthcare to go along with the other 20 million jobs we just threw away.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 10:29 am to the808bass
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Well, frick all those people, too. Especially the type 1 diabetics.
Everyone dies, pussy.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 10:30 am to the808bass
quote:And. I’m our infinite wisdom, we should apply that to every small hospital to put them all in the red.
It does make sense that orthopedic surgeons and their staffs aren’t working. That OTs and PTs have less work. That the gastroenterologist isn’t doing his normal number of procedures.
Why not?
And sarcasm aside, the small hospitals this asinine plan is hurting are not being overrun.
Like that WI poster pointed out, all that is happening is the hospitals in smaller areas, that are seeing minimal Wuhan Flu, are hemorrhaging money.
But it isn’t as if anyone saw that coming.
That last sentence was sarcasm.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 10:30 am to Antonio Moss
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mean, who cares about people with Leukemia?
It's not that we don't care, it's that the risk is mostly specific to certain groups of people and thus may not warrant a general shutdown.
If this was an ebola-like virus that killed everyone who got it, things would obviously be different.
Instead, its a flu-like virus that is not very dangerous for most people, but somewhat more dangerous than the flu for certain people.
So it's perfectly reasonable for people to want a more nuanced and targeted response. Doesn't mean we want diabetics and leukemia patients to die, and it's stupid of y'all to keep misinterpreting it in that way.
This post was edited on 4/10/20 at 10:32 am
Posted on 4/10/20 at 10:34 am to uway
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Instead, its a flu-like virus that is not very dangerous for most people, but somewhat more dangerous than the flu for certain people.
So it's perfectly reasonable for people to want a more nuanced and targeted response. Doesn't mean we want diabetics and leukemia patients to die, and it's stupid of y'all to keep misinterpreting it in that way.
All the models and prediction by the "scientists" and "experts" were not only wrong but wrong by magnitudes. Instead of admitting to the fault and lack of science, they now want to use heart strings... instead of OrangeMan Bad.... you hate my 300lb. Grandpa.
This post was edited on 4/10/20 at 10:35 am
Posted on 4/10/20 at 10:35 am to uway
And also, I have a close family member that was diagnosed with leukemia last year and has been self-isolating of her own free will for most of that time, due to a compromised immune system. At Christmas, again of her own free will, she took the risk of being around family. Then went back to self-isolation.
That's how things should work.
The more we know about this virus, the more it seems we overreacted.
That's how things should work.
The more we know about this virus, the more it seems we overreacted.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 10:36 am to mets69
People with inflammatory diseases, asthma, or are overweight don’t count?is that the republican vision for healthcare policy?
This post was edited on 4/10/20 at 10:37 am
Posted on 4/10/20 at 10:37 am to BeepNode
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People with inflammatory diseases, asthma, or are overweight don’t count?is that the republican vision for healthcare policy?
See, that's stupid. Really, really stupid. Or just dishonest.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 10:37 am to uway
quote:They are not misinterpreting it.
So it's perfectly reasonable for people to want a more nuanced and targeted response. Doesn't mean we want diabetics and leukemia patients to die, and it's stupid of y'all to keep misinterpreting it in that way.
It is their spin to try and make anyone who thinks our response was inappropriate appear to be a monster what wants people to die.
It is just as easy to say that they want people to be homeless, to increase suicides and crime, and to destroy millions of lives and thousands on thousands of small businesses.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 10:37 am to uway
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It's not that we don't care, it's that the risk is mostly specific to certain groups of people and thus may not warrant a general shutdown.
I agree on that.
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So it's perfectly reasonable for people to want a more nuanced and targeted response. Doesn't mean we want diabetics and leukemia patients to die, and it's stupid of y'all to keep misinterpreting it in that way.
While I agree with that as well, you have posters in this thread who have said “it’s just fat fricks dying.” And “if the virus even exists.” So, yeah, a little more nuanced discussion opposed to that would be welcomed.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 10:38 am to BeepNode
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People with inflammatory diseases, asthma, or are overweight don’t count?is that the republican vision for healthcare policy?
Well, they could count but these people are generally in their last 1% one way or another. Which is why countries like Italy the the life expectancy probably won't change much of any, matter of fact, with people in lock down mode... you could see an actual rise in life expectancy (or more like I wouldn't be surprise in some regions of that happening).
It would seem like Republicans and Democrats have problems with basic math.
This post was edited on 4/10/20 at 10:41 am
Posted on 4/10/20 at 10:39 am to Scruffy
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It is their spin to try and make anyone who thinks our response was inappropriate appear to be a monster what wants people to die.
That’s an unfair generalization as well on the opposite end. You can advocate for a less restrictive approach to our situation without denying reality and without creating equally stupid propaganda in opposition to the apocalyptic propaganda to which we’ve been subjected.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 10:46 am to the808bass
quote:That is the whole point.
That’s an unfair generalization as well on the opposite end.
I mean, when you post stuff like:
quote:That is a pretty fair generalization.
Yeah. frick all those people with asthma.
Also, let’s not act like those adamantly opposed to any level of economic reopening haven’t been heavily using that argument.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 10:50 am to Scruffy
Ok. Fair enough.
I think we should be reopening the economy within a week in some locations, two weeks in most locations. It doesn’t make sense to act like Iowa is Queens, NY. Or even that Cape Girardeau, MO is St. Louis.
I think we should be reopening the economy within a week in some locations, two weeks in most locations. It doesn’t make sense to act like Iowa is Queens, NY. Or even that Cape Girardeau, MO is St. Louis.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 10:50 am to GeauxFightingTigers1
Germany is probably like Spain, average age of death from the beer flu is possibly over the life expectancy age.... or close. Average age of death through March 28th supposedly is 82, yet the average life expectancy in Germany is 81.
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Of the deaths in Germany, 66 percent have been men, and 34 percent women, with an average age of 82, according to an analysis by the Robert Koch Institute on March 28th.
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