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re: So what happened there in the last 30 minutes of the market?

Posted on 3/27/20 at 3:59 pm to
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 3/27/20 at 3:59 pm to
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Profit taking before a weekend of probably really bad news



I’m a newb and don’t get this. The market shrugged off 4x the record jobless claims, but is spooked at the possibility of bad news over the weekend in the face of the stimulus being signed? What could possibly come out over the weekend?

Seemed like we were becoming jaded to bad news and starving for good news, which we just got.

This shite’s confusing.

Edit: and the futures are down 900+ points...
This post was edited on 3/27/20 at 4:04 pm
Posted by Pendulum
Member since Jan 2009
7068 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 4:09 pm to
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Edit: and the futures are down 900+ points...


No they arent.
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
13686 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 4:12 pm to
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The market shrugged off 4x the record jobless claims, but is spooked at the possibility of bad news over the weekend in the face of the stimulus being signed? What could possibly come out over the weekend?


Market can stay irrational longer than most can stay solvent. We had 3.2 million jobless claims and the market went up. Today we have great numbers on PC, income and spending, Bank of Canada cut 50 basis points, which ordinarily would have sent the market way up, and the market was down. Most indicated during the week it was an unsupported bounce, which is proving true so far. Not a surprising move down and not a lot of news that will push it up next week according to most. Next three weeks could be great or difficult. We will see what happens with the virus and will start seeing if people will spend their government money or save it. Until then I think most are expecting a lot of days like today.
This post was edited on 3/27/20 at 4:18 pm
Posted by rintintin
Life is Life
Member since Nov 2008
16227 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 4:21 pm to
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What could possibly come out over the weekend?


You know that little virus that's been going around? The one that hasn't slowed down yet? Those number will continue to climb over the weekend unfortunately.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36178 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 5:21 pm to
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I’m a newb and don’t get this. The market shrugged off 4x the record jobless claims, but is spooked at the possibility of bad news over the weekend in the face of the stimulus being signed? What could possibly come out over the weekend?

Seemed like we were becoming jaded to bad news and starving for good news, which we just got.

This shite’s confusing.

Edit: and the futures are down 900+ points...



JMO and others can obviously disagree. But I think a lot of people over-estimate the effect of real data and under-estimate the effect of group optimism or group pessimism when it comes to stock market values.

Many, if not most, stocks are not really priced in a close relationship with the value of their net earnings, debt, or other semi-objective metrics. Instead people put a disproportionate amount of faith into their sense of the momentum of a stock or a group of stocks.

But, after the fact, you will see many investors treat those short term values as if they were really meaningful (rather than an effect of momentum and group think). By this, I mean people will argue that Stock A or B should quickly return to a recent high or low value because it was recently at that value. But that isn't a meaningful value unless it was really based on the quantifiable metrics of the stock - and it often was not.

Anyway, JMO
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37709 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:59 pm to
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The market shrugged off 4x the record jobless claims,


Except that may not have been what happened. There is a lot of demand as funds have to rebalance their portfolios to get within required allocation limits
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