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Wow---what do you think this will mean for small employers that try to stay open?

Posted on 3/18/20 at 9:52 am
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 9:52 am
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WHAT: On March 16, 2020, the U.S. House of Representatives passed a revised version of the H.R. 6201, Families First Coronavirus Response Act (H.R. 6201 or the Bill). While the U.S. Senate has not weighed in, employers should be aware of the provisions within the Bill that would require them to change their policies with regards to coverage under the Family and Medical Leave Act (FMLA) and expanding the requirements to provide paid sick leave.

WHEN: The House originally passed H.R. 6201 on March 14, 2020, but then changed a number of the provisions, citing the need to make “technical corrections.” The revised Bill was then voted on and passed on Monday, March 16, 2020. The Bill now heads for the Senate.

WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR INDUSTRY: As written, the Bill requires employers with under 500 employees expand their coverage of paid leave to employees who are affected by COVID-19 either under FMLA or in the form of sick leave. These requirements will be in place until December 31, 2020. The following are major highlights of the Bill, but there are additional requirements that may affect certain businesses and the provisions may change as the Bill makes its way through the Senate. Nonetheless, all employers are advised to consult with counsel before the law goes into effect.

Family and Medical Leave: The Bill requires that employers give paid FMLA leave for a “qualifying need related to a public health emergency” which is defined as when an employee is unable to work or telework due to the need to care for a dependent whose school or place of care has been closed due to COVID-19.

Employers must pay employees who have elected to take this protected “emergency” leave an amount equal to two-thirds of the employee’s average pay rate. The first ten (10) days for which an employee takes the “emergency” FMLA leave may consist of unpaid leave, but an employee may choose to use any accrued regular leave during that time or the newly mandated emergency sick leave (described below). The employer must then provide paid leave for remainder of emergency FMLA leave (up to ten (10) weeks) with a cap of $200 per day. Employees that have been with the company for at least thirty (30) days would be eligible for this program.

Emergency Sick Leave: The Bill also establishes a new sick leave program that requires employers to immediately grant paid sick leave to any employee, regardless of tenure with the company, who is unable to work or telework due to one of the following:

The employee is subject to a Federal, State, or local quarantine or isolation order related to COVID-19;
The employee has been advised by a health care provider to self-quarantine due to COVID-19;
The employee is experiencing symptoms of COVID-19 and seeking a medical diagnosis;
The employee is caring for an individual who is subject to a quarantine or isolation order or has been advised to self-quarantine; or
The employee is unable to work or telework due to the need to care for a dependent whose school or place of care has been closed due to COVID-19.
Full-time employees would be entitled to 80 hours of sick leave; part-time employees are entitled to the number of hours that they work on average over a two-week period. Additionally, the Bill contains provisions that would prohibit retaliation against an employee who chooses to use the Sick Leave and employers are prohibited from requiring employees to use existing leave or paid time off. Under these requirements, companies with fewer than 500 employees will have to pay sick leave at either the usual pay rate if the individual is quarantining, diagnosed, or seeking preventative care; or at two-thirds the usual pay rate if the leave is taken to care for a family member or a dependent whose school has closed.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293514 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 9:53 am to
Government is crushing small business and industry right now.
Posted by LSUfanNkaty
LC, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
11928 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 9:54 am to
I mean... it's needed for the employee. If there isn't, I would imagine there is some verbiage on stimulus to the employer for doing so in the way of credits or cuts.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109437 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 9:56 am to
They will make a lot more than those that feel they need to close, if they are offering something people need.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 9:56 am to
Healthy employees should not have to be paid by employers to stay home and not work.

They need the workers.

You can't just snap your fingers and replace experienced people while they take 12 weeks off.
This post was edited on 3/18/20 at 9:57 am
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30528 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 10:00 am to
Expanded FMLA and paid sick leave have been a Dem wet dream for years... Consider this a test case with something more permanent needing to be passed later...
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 10:02 am to
Exactly. It will probably never go away.

Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 10:05 am to
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Healthy employees should not have to be paid by employers to stay home and not work.


And they aren't, are they? You have to either have the friggin' thing, been told to quarantine by your doctor or be caring for someone who is quarantined.

You can't just up and say "I ain't coming in for 3 months. Sorry."

Right?
Posted by iheartchimichangas
Member since Jul 2016
748 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 10:05 am to
frick this....my dad's business would cease to exist.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 10:06 am to
No you can stay home and care for your kids if their school has closed.

This is literally millions of workers today.
This post was edited on 3/18/20 at 10:08 am
Posted by BayBengal9
Bay St. Louis, MS
Member since Nov 2019
4171 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 10:07 am to
Went to a local restaurant I enjoy and ate dinner there last night and bought a $50 gift card just to give them a little business. I'll give the gift card to a friend or just use it later after they're back at full speed.

Support your local businesses as much as you can for those of you who are still working and making money.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30528 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 10:07 am to
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And they aren't, are they? You have to either have the friggin' thing, been told to quarantine by your doctor or be caring for someone who is quarantined.



or a dependent whose school has closed.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 10:08 am to
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No you can stay home and care for your kids if their school has closed.

This is literally millions of workers today.


Ahh...
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14953 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 10:08 am to
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and employers are prohibited from requiring employees to use existing leave or paid time off.


Why the hell is this prohibited? If you have 1,000 hours of annual leave or vacation time stored up, you should have to use that.

What about companies that don't have sick leave or vacation time but use a "pool" of hours that is suppose to cover both?

Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62475 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 10:08 am to
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what do you think this will mean for small employers that try to stay open?
Businesses need to close. If they try to stay open, and pay employees they will get no assistance -- and be behind any competitors when this blows over. Completely upside down.
Posted by Sheepdog1833
Member since Feb 2019
750 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 10:09 am to
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You can't just up and say "I ain't coming in for 3 months. Sorry."


But everyone in LA with a child can claim they have to stay home to care for them because schools are closed.
I’ve said this before but as a small business owner I’m fricked if this is implemented and my workers use it. Which means they won’t be getting paid anyway.
Posted by BabyCakes
Northshore
Member since Nov 2016
110 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 10:10 am to
Looks like the unemployment rate is going to rise right before this becomes effective.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 10:11 am to
Not a single one of my employees failed to report to work Monday even though schools had been closed.

Now they can stay home, get paid for 12 weeks and I have to give them their job back.

How do I replace them for 12 weeks and what do I do with that person when the other guy comes back?

This is bad enough with the maternity thing but expanding it to small businesses and then expand the benefit parents electing to watch their kids is ridiculous.

This post was edited on 3/18/20 at 10:13 am
Posted by Number 9 Fan
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2020
681 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 10:12 am to
As a small business person I could easily comply if they let us print money like the government does.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 10:13 am to
quote:

Now they can stay home, get paid for 12 weeks and I have to give them their job back.



Do you have to give them their job back or a job back?
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