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Trump doing to China what Reagan did to the USSR?

Posted on 3/3/20 at 4:53 am
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
38017 posts
Posted on 3/3/20 at 4:53 am
It is starting to look similar. May be too soon to say just now but (and pardon the pun) there appears to be a chink in China's armor starting to show. Xi may be in trouble. Of course with China there will be bloodshed and the Communist Party power brokers will have no qualms murdering 1000s to maintain power and control. Still, something is happening that is worth watching in the midst of all of this coronavirus stuff as well as the Trump induced tarrifs.

Full article with pics and videos linked here. Portions excerpted in the quotes below.

LINK: https://andmagazine.com/talk/2020/03/02/the-last-communist-emperor-xi-and-the-ccp-lose-control-of-china/
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The last emperor of the Ming Dynasty in China was Chongzhen. He presided over an empire bloated with bureaucracy, drowning in lies and desperately trying to stave off the inevitable. In the end, as the system crumbled around him, he rang the bell in his palace to signal his ministers to assemble before him. No one came. He was alone, and the empire was no more. He hung himself in despair.

Perhaps things have not yet reached quite that point for Xi Jinping. They may yet, however.

For decades now the world has told itself the lie that China represented the future, that its society and government were liberalizing, that the Chinese people supported their government and its policies. The coronavirus crisis has exposed that lie in all its monstrosity.

The Chinese Communist Party is not the vanguard of anything. It is a brutal, thuggish syndicate more akin to a criminal mafia than a political party. It oppresses its people with ruthless efficiency. It feeds on lies, false statistics and meaningless claims of success and progress. It is hopelessly incompetent at everything other than oppression.

The Chinese economy is at a standstill. Factories are shuttered. The Caixin/Markit Manufacturing Purchasing Managers’ Index (PMI) showed factory production and new orders collapsing to the worst levels on record last month, while employment also took a nosedive. Satellite images published by NASA show a massive drop in air pollution over Chinese cities consistent with an 80% drop in industrial activity and traffic.

Nothing is being produced. No one is moving.



Chinese efforts to force workers back into factories and restart industrial production have met with limited success. Undeterred the bureaucracy has simply decreed that factories will use minimum amounts of electricity daily and report those results to party officials. Factory owners and managers have responded to the mad edict by simply turning on equipment and allowing it to run continuously, using electricity, producing nothing and feeding the gargantuan bureaucracy the meaningless statistics on which it feeds.


The article is available in its entirety linked above the quote.

It is a good piece, worth reading.

Posted by Little Trump
Florida
Member since Nov 2017
5817 posts
Posted on 3/3/20 at 5:06 am to
And to think sooooo many fools rose up against Trump when he began to place tariffs on China

I have theory God is walking side by side with Trump and he’s giving Trump first hand knowledge of what to do to destroy the evil empire

It’s working too!
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 3/3/20 at 5:26 am to
Give it another month. Those factories that produce 80-90 percent plus of the prescription medications we use aren't making any. Coronavirus may not kill millions here. Our dependence on third world manufacturing just may do it.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37733 posts
Posted on 3/3/20 at 6:12 am to
I couldn’t get past this part you xenophobic shot lord.

quote:

there appears to be a chink in China's armor starting to show


How dare you disparage the Great people of China!




In all honesty
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For decades now the world has told itself the lie that China represented the future, that its society and government were liberalizing, that the Chinese people supported their government and its policies.


Has anyone ever said this? Primarily the liberalizing part?

If anything I hope for a diversification of supply
Lines and trading partners after this
Posted by Rock the Casbah
Member since Dec 2014
940 posts
Posted on 3/3/20 at 6:16 am to
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Trump doing to China what Reagan did to the USSR?


Emphatically Yes. In fact, I give Trump higher marks than Reagan because China is a much more difficult foe. Russia was overtly confrontational, China is a snake.
Posted by tiger7166
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
2633 posts
Posted on 3/3/20 at 6:36 am to
For decades now the world has told itself the lie that China represented the future, that its society and government were liberalizing, that the Chinese people supported their government and its policies. as told itself the lie that China represented the future, that its society and government were liberalizing, that the Chinese people supported their government and its policies.

Try crooked politicians and a complicit MSM
Posted by UnitedFruitCompany
Bay Area
Member since Nov 2018
3437 posts
Posted on 3/3/20 at 6:47 am to
You know who was on the team for those USSR negotiations? Robert Lighthizer. You know who is the straw that stirs the drinks on the China negotiations these days? Robert Lighthizer.

That baw is a killer. Trump loves killers.
Posted by ynlvr
Rocket City
Member since Feb 2009
4613 posts
Posted on 3/3/20 at 7:08 am to
Coronavirus is to China what Chernobyl was to Russia. An il-timed unnatural disaster that exposes the bad effects of dictatorships on public health and transparency. Totalitarian regimes implode from within when this is exposed.
Posted by TigerCruise
Virginia Beach, VA
Member since Oct 2013
11898 posts
Posted on 3/3/20 at 7:14 am to
quote:

For decades now the world has told itself the lie that China represented the future, that its society and government were liberalizing, that the Chinese people supported their government and its policies. The coronavirus crisis has exposed that lie in all its monstrosity.


What retards believed this
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
17558 posts
Posted on 3/3/20 at 7:17 am to
This post was edited on 3/25/20 at 4:34 am
Posted by Philippines4LSU
Member since May 2018
8789 posts
Posted on 3/3/20 at 12:01 pm to
My fricking business partner is such a GD idiot.

A vendor with whom we do a lot of business and from whom we buy several of our bestselling products called yesterday to offer us an opportunity to buy what’s left of remaining quantities of some of our core products before calling other customers. He told us how much he had remaining (a 15 month supply at current sales rates for a product which won’t expire for nearly 3 years.

He went on to explain that the disruption in global shipping and supply chains caused by the virus - whether legitimate or not - would prevent his company from being able to produce any more for 9 months in his best case scenario, likely more like 12 or more z.

If we bought all he had less, we’d sell it all before it expired even at current sales figures which have only grown significantly every month since we began to stock it (my idea).

More importantly, we’d ensure that our competition had none and would have none for several months to a year at the least. If we’re the only company who has it, eventually all global buyers will find their way to us via the internet while much competition would never bother restocking once available again.

The idiot vetoed my purchase attempt pending a meeting later in the week.

The last time I deployed this strategy (that vendor was ceasing production indefinitely to settle a legal dispute among ownership), we had the product when no one else did, got the #1 and #2 spots overall result in Google results (and 6 of the top 10 results including our feeder sites), and never surrendered the first page SERP (search engine results page) domination for four years after the dispute was resolved and production restored.

Now we have a chance to legally monopolize supply for the product and my idiot business partner is wasting valuable time. I can’t wait for 2022 to arrive when my stake will increase to above 50% and I won’t have to deal with this BS ever again.
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