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A Progressive Becomes Conservative
Posted on 3/1/20 at 7:21 pm
Posted on 3/1/20 at 7:21 pm
I used to post on this board back in 2007-09. I considered myself a progressive. I was 19-20 years old and big Obama supporter. I knew that my opinions on political matters were correct. Over the last ~12 years I have matured into a conservative. Below is a timeline that describes my ‘awakening’:
2007-2012 – Five years at LSU (victory lap) showed me that conservatives weren’t bad people, they just had different opinions than me. Nearly all my friends at LSU were republicans. After spending 5 years in Louisiana, I could see that government wasn’t that effective at solving issues related to poverty. I grew up in a Pleasantville bubble in suburbia and hadn’t experienced any real diversity or poverty in my first 18 years. I pulled the lever twice for Obama, but I was much less enthusiastic about the second vote.
2012-2013 – I worked as a substitute teacher in the inner cities. This was a big turning point for me. The schools were an absolute disgrace. I could go on for hours, but in short, I saw tremendous apathy amongst 50% of the public school staff. The best way to describe it is a ‘go along to get along’ attitude. Students couldn’t be punished for what where I come from would have been suspension or expulsion type event. The root of the problem with the schools was the lack of accountability of the students’ families. I felt terrible for the minority of parents who actually cared, but were stuck with a failing school because of the neighborhood they lived in. I saw the impact that the breakdown of the American family has had on our society.
2014- By this time, I considered myself a middle of the road independent. I joined the military and took to it like a fish to water. On day one I was told you get out what you put in, which I found to be 100% true in any endeavor. Mindset is everything. In the middle of my pipeline, a cadre member rounded up all us wannabees and berated us because of our classes unusually high attrition rate. “When I set out to do something, I don’t f*cking fail!” I adopted that attitude for the rest of my time in service. Over the years I learned that life isn’t fair, and no one can make it so. Hope is not a good plan. Someone on this planet has it worse than you, so don’t complain. Finally, opportunity exists for everyone in this country. Everyone has a choice to take a risk and make something of themselves.
2016- I was a secret conservative at this point. Although I didn’t vote in the 2016 election, I was silently rooting for Donald Trump. I was sleeping out at the range on election day. I remember staying up, refreshing my phone every few minutes watching the results come in.
2018- I made a vow in the fall of 2018 that I would never vote for a democrat again. The disgusting tactics used to try and railroad Justice Kavanaugh enraged me. I immediately registered to vote. When I got my absentee ballot, I voted for every name with an R next to it without hesitation. I was pissed and finally came out as a conservative. Relatives were shocked and disturbed, but I didn’t care.
2020- There is a way to get free college. Taking a break in service to attend grad school, I stroll into the university veterans affairs office. I had no idea how much the GI bill was going to pay for, I didn’t sign up for free college. It turns out if you are within 3 years of separation from service, any public school university is 100% free. I will be voting in my first presidential election since 2012. I think there are a significant number of Americans like me who will be showing up to the polls in November.
2007-2012 – Five years at LSU (victory lap) showed me that conservatives weren’t bad people, they just had different opinions than me. Nearly all my friends at LSU were republicans. After spending 5 years in Louisiana, I could see that government wasn’t that effective at solving issues related to poverty. I grew up in a Pleasantville bubble in suburbia and hadn’t experienced any real diversity or poverty in my first 18 years. I pulled the lever twice for Obama, but I was much less enthusiastic about the second vote.
2012-2013 – I worked as a substitute teacher in the inner cities. This was a big turning point for me. The schools were an absolute disgrace. I could go on for hours, but in short, I saw tremendous apathy amongst 50% of the public school staff. The best way to describe it is a ‘go along to get along’ attitude. Students couldn’t be punished for what where I come from would have been suspension or expulsion type event. The root of the problem with the schools was the lack of accountability of the students’ families. I felt terrible for the minority of parents who actually cared, but were stuck with a failing school because of the neighborhood they lived in. I saw the impact that the breakdown of the American family has had on our society.
2014- By this time, I considered myself a middle of the road independent. I joined the military and took to it like a fish to water. On day one I was told you get out what you put in, which I found to be 100% true in any endeavor. Mindset is everything. In the middle of my pipeline, a cadre member rounded up all us wannabees and berated us because of our classes unusually high attrition rate. “When I set out to do something, I don’t f*cking fail!” I adopted that attitude for the rest of my time in service. Over the years I learned that life isn’t fair, and no one can make it so. Hope is not a good plan. Someone on this planet has it worse than you, so don’t complain. Finally, opportunity exists for everyone in this country. Everyone has a choice to take a risk and make something of themselves.
2016- I was a secret conservative at this point. Although I didn’t vote in the 2016 election, I was silently rooting for Donald Trump. I was sleeping out at the range on election day. I remember staying up, refreshing my phone every few minutes watching the results come in.
2018- I made a vow in the fall of 2018 that I would never vote for a democrat again. The disgusting tactics used to try and railroad Justice Kavanaugh enraged me. I immediately registered to vote. When I got my absentee ballot, I voted for every name with an R next to it without hesitation. I was pissed and finally came out as a conservative. Relatives were shocked and disturbed, but I didn’t care.
2020- There is a way to get free college. Taking a break in service to attend grad school, I stroll into the university veterans affairs office. I had no idea how much the GI bill was going to pay for, I didn’t sign up for free college. It turns out if you are within 3 years of separation from service, any public school university is 100% free. I will be voting in my first presidential election since 2012. I think there are a significant number of Americans like me who will be showing up to the polls in November.
Posted on 3/1/20 at 7:22 pm to Last Bound
$0.05 has been deposited in your account
Posted on 3/1/20 at 7:24 pm to Last Bound
This is more common than you'd think.
Posted on 3/1/20 at 7:25 pm to Last Bound
It’s interesting. Once people learn how the world works, and why things are the way they are around the world, they tend to flip conservative.
I think the majority of progressives are just extremely naive. Great ideas to improve society, but little understanding of what’s required or the likely consequences of those “great ideas”.
I think the majority of progressives are just extremely naive. Great ideas to improve society, but little understanding of what’s required or the likely consequences of those “great ideas”.
This post was edited on 3/1/20 at 10:28 pm
Posted on 3/1/20 at 7:29 pm to Last Bound
Welcome aboard. Super happy you use logic.
Posted on 3/1/20 at 7:30 pm to BobBoucher
I’m a commie at heart but my brain makes the decisions
Posted on 3/1/20 at 7:32 pm to Last Bound
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back in 2007-09
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the last ~12 years
I felt so old reading that.
Posted on 3/1/20 at 7:40 pm to Last Bound
Rest easy knowing you will be on the right side of history. 
Posted on 3/1/20 at 7:48 pm to Last Bound
Similar story. Huge Obama supporter in 2008, reluctant Obama voter who almost voted Johnson in 2012, then supported Rand Paul until he dropped out in 2016. Voted Trump 2016 and can’t wait to vote for him again in November.
I came from a blue collar family. Was the first in my immediate family to get a 4 year degree. My dad belonged to the local crane operator union all his life, and because of all the the lefts antics he’s become a Trump supporter. My grandfather was a member of the same union, and surprising supported Obama in 08 and 12 (he’s old school Democrat and I honestly never thought he’d support a black guy). Obama’s second term and Hillary’s campaign kind of soured on him and I think he’ll vote Trump this time.
I came from a blue collar family. Was the first in my immediate family to get a 4 year degree. My dad belonged to the local crane operator union all his life, and because of all the the lefts antics he’s become a Trump supporter. My grandfather was a member of the same union, and surprising supported Obama in 08 and 12 (he’s old school Democrat and I honestly never thought he’d support a black guy). Obama’s second term and Hillary’s campaign kind of soured on him and I think he’ll vote Trump this time.
Posted on 3/1/20 at 7:50 pm to Last Bound
I too began adult life as a democrat. Not a progressive though. An old school democrat.
Voted for Billy Jeff. They veered too far left too fast and left me behind and seemed glad to do it. I was deplorable at this point.
I believe in a helping hand up but don’t believe in creating dependency. Dependency is part of their goal now. That and being aggrieved about everything.
Welcome home!

Voted for Billy Jeff. They veered too far left too fast and left me behind and seemed glad to do it. I was deplorable at this point.
I believe in a helping hand up but don’t believe in creating dependency. Dependency is part of their goal now. That and being aggrieved about everything.
Welcome home!
Posted on 3/1/20 at 7:52 pm to Last Bound
Serious question...since you've apparently seen what is going on, what's your opinion of the MSM in America?
Posted on 3/1/20 at 8:02 pm to Last Bound
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This post was edited on 1/11/21 at 1:23 am
Posted on 3/1/20 at 8:04 pm to Last Bound
Someone get this man a coat!
Posted on 3/1/20 at 8:06 pm to TidenUP
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Serious question...since you've apparently seen what is going on, what's your opinion of the MSM in America?
Real journalism is practically dead. The MSM 'reports' on stories that are sensational and will get eyeballs on the TV. Think Don Henley - Dirty Laundry, but with a political flavor.
Many talking heads, columnists, and bloggers see themselves as enlightened crusaders in the progressive movement. They are however, woefully unaware of how replaceable and unimportant they are. I find this painfully ironic. They look down their noses at the irreplaceable blue collar, fly over state workers, who are actually necessary for this country to function.
Posted on 3/1/20 at 8:12 pm to Last Bound
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grew up in a Pleasantville bubble in suburbia and hadn’t experienced any real diversity or poverty in my first 18 years. I pulled the lever twice for Obama, but I was much less enthusiastic about the second vote.
2012-2013 – I worked as a substitute teacher in the inner cities. This was a big turning point for me.
Basically 95% of the whites who do vote dem were just like you. From a lily white middle class upbringing who think the south is a bunch of racists, that changes quickly when they get to experience "diversity"
Posted on 3/1/20 at 8:14 pm to Last Bound
A 20 year old Republican is an inconsiderate person
A 40 year old democrat is an idiot
A 40 year old democrat is an idiot
Posted on 3/1/20 at 8:14 pm to TheFonz
Okay, that’s the actual quote 
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