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Posted on 2/20/20 at 1:48 pm to
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
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Posted on 2/20/20 at 1:48 pm to
I don’t believe biological warfare has been used since vaccines have been implemented due to their uncontrollable nature. I could be completely wrong though
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Posted on 2/20/20 at 1:49 pm to
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Posted by PJinAtl
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Posted on 2/20/20 at 1:51 pm to
I would question the source and some of their conclusions, but the journal itself is legit - it is part of the ElSevier/ScienceDirect family.

I am looking at the article itself and it it directly states:
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Based on its genome sequence, 2019-nCoV belongs to lineage b of Betacoronavirus, which also includes the SARS-Cov and bat CoV ZXC21...2019-nCoV shares ~76% amino acid sequence identity in the Spike (S)protein sequence with SARS-CoV and 80% with CoV ZXC21.
Posted by AllDayEveryDay
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Posted on 2/20/20 at 1:52 pm to
I thought Putin used mustard gas against the Ukrainians at some point in the last 10 years. Also I thought Saudi had used some form as well.

As for the article, if anyone has access to ScienceDirect through school or work the paper is HERE.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
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Posted on 2/20/20 at 1:52 pm to
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Posted by IceTiger
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Posted on 2/20/20 at 1:53 pm to
Let's not forget our guy Zeosong Zheng was arrested at the airport with biological vials...

Going to Wuhan...? Definitely connected to Wuhan, where our traitor was doing double duty...

Was it a cure? Was it the weapon? Did it have nothing to do with this? Is 12 Monkeys shite?
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
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Posted on 2/20/20 at 1:53 pm to
Mustard is a chemical weapon which I believe is VERY different from a biological weapon.
Posted by The Maj
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Posted on 2/20/20 at 1:55 pm to
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mustard gas


Chemical weapon, same with those that Sadam used... Also what was used in Syria...
Posted by IceTiger
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Posted on 2/20/20 at 1:57 pm to
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chemical weapon which I believe is VERY different from a biological weapon


It is...adequate protections against one typically work for the other, though (nerve agent protection works vs. Moost all biologicals)
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
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Posted on 2/20/20 at 1:57 pm to
My point is I don’t think any established, non-theocratic despot would ever use biological warfare because as Ian Malcom said, life finds a way
Posted by IceTiger
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Posted on 2/20/20 at 1:57 pm to
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Also what was used in Syria...


Allegedlies
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Posted on 2/20/20 at 1:58 pm to
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is I don’t think any established, non-theocratic despot would ever use biological warfare


We practice the genocidal tenet of abortion in the US...?
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
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Posted on 2/20/20 at 2:00 pm to
i didn’t say people won’t be horrible. What I’m saying is outside of the Muslim brotherhood no one will use biological weapons because they cannot be controlled
Posted by The Maj
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Posted on 2/20/20 at 2:01 pm to
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My point is I don’t think any established, non-theocratic despot would ever use biological warfare because as Ian Malcom said, life finds a way


Well, I tend to agree with you BUT it would not surprise me in the least if China would not do this, especially given the history of viruses that have originated there... They have deniability but could cripple the world...

Just a lot of "hmmmm" things with this virus, their research lab happening to be the epicenter being one of them... They were also very quick to shut shite down given the numbers they were reporting...
Posted by The Maj
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Posted on 2/20/20 at 2:02 pm to
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Allegedlies


Allegedly... I will concede that...
Posted by chity
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Posted on 2/20/20 at 2:06 pm to
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Have you ever heard of a controllable bio weapon?


There are diseases that are race related. Cycle cell anaemia for example.
Posted by Philippines4LSU
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Posted on 2/20/20 at 2:06 pm to
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All in route as an active virus to the Tulane Primate Center in Covington near you ..



I live near there. I remember the good ole days when PETA would break in and let loose the monkeys. I used to see them occasionally across the bayou from my house where it’s heavily wooded area.

The previous homeowner supposedly shot one with a 12-gauge after the first time the PETA loons released the monkeys. There was a second incident a few years later after I bought the house. I assume the monkeys I saw were from that second release.

After that, DHS took over security for a couple years and closed the campus to students (they used to hold classes there).

Good times...
This post was edited on 2/20/20 at 2:07 pm
Posted by omegaman66
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Posted on 2/20/20 at 2:08 pm to
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Used as employed as a weapon of war, I am going to guess World War I ish


Cuba had bioweapons used against them right after the bay of pigs.
Posted by The Maj
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Posted on 2/20/20 at 2:08 pm to
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when PETA would break in and let loose the monkeys


Anyone remember "12 Monkeys"?
Posted by IceTiger
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Posted on 2/20/20 at 2:11 pm to
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Muslim brotherhood no one will use biological weapons because they cannot be controlled

I appreciate your faith in humanity, I do...BUT
History says different, heck, the Georgia Guidestones say different...
UN agendas say different (well, the outcome, not the process)
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