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re: Hal Hughes has been removed from the starting lineup for the next 2 games
Posted on 2/18/20 at 7:52 am to ArcticTiger
Posted on 2/18/20 at 7:52 am to ArcticTiger
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You do realize that Hampton is not starting at Shortstop?
Yes I’m aware. It was poor wording on my part. He already had a group of guys he planned to play this week regardless. Hampton was my example as some are basically acting like Hampton has been moved to starter and Hal has been benched. Hal May have been benched but he’s already mentioned trying different groups and I think we all knew that included seeing if others could take over the SS position.
This post was edited on 2/18/20 at 7:57 am
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Posted on 2/18/20 at 7:53 am to nicholastiger
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PM was pissed when no one covered 2nd on the steal attempt
If that was on Hughes there is no excuse. The main reason to play Hughes is because of his experience. He can't make mistakes like that if it was indeed his fault.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 7:55 am to LSUFanHouston
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Then in 19, it made more sense to play Smith at 3B, and we didn't have much else behind Hughes, so he went back to SS.
Smith played shortstop all year last year. Hughes and Reid split time at 3rd base.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 7:57 am to TeddyPadillac
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Did he commit two errors this weekend?
One of those errors was a really squirrely hop that would eat up most infielders. Hughes has been pretty solid defensively over his career.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 7:58 am to N2daWild
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If that was on Hughes there is no excuse. The main reason to play Hughes is because of his experience. He can't make mistakes like that if it was indeed his fault.
This is true but it didn’t look like either one covered. Beloso must have spaced out because he wasn’t holding the runner on. I wonder if he even let anyone know he was stealing.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 8:04 am to Jester
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Hughes has been pretty solid defensively over his career.
The same people who are pointing to Hughes making two errors, while ignoring solid defense throughout his career, are the same people ignoring a two RBI performance on Saturday, plus improved hitting numbers in the spring, while pointing to poor hitting through his career.
The point is, they are going to hate on Hughes for whatever they can find, even if they contradict themselves.
All that being said, I hope everything works out to where Mathis can become a full time starter at SS. A lot needs to happen though, which includes a lot more than just Mathis being able to handle the position.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 8:11 am to ProjectP2294
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think what you pointed to is an important distinction to note that Hughes' talent isn't necessarily what took him out of the lineup. It's that in the field he played with his head up his arse.
Agreed. I can live with a defense first SS. But if you can’t hit you damn well better be doing your job in the field.
I’m not nor have I ever been a bash Hughes guy but his defensive performance over the weekend got under my skin.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 8:12 am to TriedandTrue
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Beloso must have spaced out because he wasn’t holding the runner on.
I think that was a coaching decision to get a better defensive alignment and ignore the runner who didn't matter.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 8:15 am to CottonWasKing
Best case scenario:
Mathis shows he can handle SS well enough, Dugas starts hitting the ball, and Hughes is able to be used as a defensive sub.
I agree that his performance in the field was disappointing. The grounder that ate him up with a funny bounce was a tough play but when the only reason you’re in the lineup is because of your glove, it’s a play you’ve got to make.
Mathis shows he can handle SS well enough, Dugas starts hitting the ball, and Hughes is able to be used as a defensive sub.
I agree that his performance in the field was disappointing. The grounder that ate him up with a funny bounce was a tough play but when the only reason you’re in the lineup is because of your glove, it’s a play you’ve got to make.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 8:19 am to Penrod
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I think that was a coaching decision to get a better defensive alignment and ignore the runner who didn't matter.
Maybe this was the case but you can’t be mad about players not covering when you gave up the bag anyway. However I’m not sure the runner didn’t matter, but I admit to not remembering the exact scenario. In almost all cases it’s better to keep that runner at first base I would think.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 8:19 am to deaux
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agree that his performance in the field was disappointing. The grounder that ate him up with a funny bounce was a tough play but when the only reason you’re in the lineup is because of your glove, it’s a play you’ve got to make.
He flubbed another play Friday I think. Then you add in the stolen base debacle and it was infuriating.
But then you had plays like the almost double play that he scooped behind second base and glove flipped to Dugas. Like project said, it’s not his talent, he just had his head up his arse for whatever reason.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 8:19 am to deaux
For Hughes to stay out of the lineup:
- Mathis has to play a good enough SS
- Doughty (or somebody else) has to play a good enough 3B
- Dugas (or somebody else) has to play a good enough 2B.
- Dugas (or whoever is playing second) has to help us with the bat.
That's a lot of things that need to happen. If they all can't happen, there is no point for Hughes to be on the bench, unless his glove continues to struggle (and history tells us it won't). The reason I say, "or somebody else," is because if Dugas isn't getting it done the experiment may not end there. Bianco or Cranford may be options, if Mainieri thinks replacing Hughes will be a must.
- Mathis has to play a good enough SS
- Doughty (or somebody else) has to play a good enough 3B
- Dugas (or somebody else) has to play a good enough 2B.
- Dugas (or whoever is playing second) has to help us with the bat.
That's a lot of things that need to happen. If they all can't happen, there is no point for Hughes to be on the bench, unless his glove continues to struggle (and history tells us it won't). The reason I say, "or somebody else," is because if Dugas isn't getting it done the experiment may not end there. Bianco or Cranford may be options, if Mainieri thinks replacing Hughes will be a must.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 8:20 am to TriedandTrue
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Maybe this was the case but you can’t be mad about players not covering when you gave up the bag anyway
Milazzo had the out though. They didn’t give up the bag. If Hughes covers the guy is nailed.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 8:22 am to oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
I don’t understand this whole thing from the standpoint of PM.
Everyone alive knew what Hughes would give you, he is a known commodity. Then yank him after 1 series. You had a whole year to think this out.
You knew this was how he would play, we have three years of proof.
Everyone alive knew what Hughes would give you, he is a known commodity. Then yank him after 1 series. You had a whole year to think this out.
You knew this was how he would play, we have three years of proof.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 8:23 am to CottonWasKing
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Milazzo had the out though. They didn’t give up the bag. If Hughes covers the guy is nailed.
This is a good point because we have a better defensive catcher than we’ve had recently. Still I think teams can overcome Milazzo’s ability by taking a bigger lead if they aren’t held on.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 8:24 am to CottonWasKing
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Milazzo had the out though. They didn’t give up the bag. If Hughes covers the guy is nailed.
Not holding a runner on first is giving up the bag.
If he was supposed to be holding the runner on, it's on Beloso for not doing it. Then some of the blame can be thrown on the SS/2B, whoever was supposed to cover
If he wasn't supposed to be holding the runner on, then they were giving up the bag, and it's on Milazzo for throwing it.
I'm guessing, based on Beloso not holding and nobody covering, they were giving up the bag and the ball shouldn't have been thrown.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 8:24 am to tigerfoot
I think this was pre-planned. I don’t think he has just been yanked. PM was always going to try to shuffle things to see if we can still have a good defense and hit better with Hughes out. The midweek games are the opportunities to try it out.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 8:26 am to tigerfoot
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Everyone alive knew what Hughes would give you, he is a known commodity. Then yank him after 1 series. You had a whole year to think this out.
Yank him after one series? Mainieri is known for tinkering with different lineups in midweek games. It doesn't mean, because Mathis is getting a shot, that Hughes is "yanked from the lineup." He may very well be there for all three games this weekend. Mathis may work out, and he may continue to play SS this weekend. We will have to see. Nobody knows how it will work, including Mainieri. Stop pretending like you knew.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 8:28 am to TriedandTrue
quote:im pretty sure of this too. I just think that is what practice is for. It isn’t like midweek games will show you anymore than scrimmages
think this was pre-planned. I don’t think he has just been yanked. PM was always going to try to shuffle things to see if we can still have a good defense and hit better with Hughes out. The midweek games are the opportunities to try it out.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 8:31 am to oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
What? You are being a dick for no reason. I had no idea he was getting pulled from the lineup for two games. But PM did.
You need to learn to communicate without thinking someone is under attack. It was an observation. You are beginning to act as if you are some authority on all things baseball related.
You need to learn to communicate without thinking someone is under attack. It was an observation. You are beginning to act as if you are some authority on all things baseball related.
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