re: National poll says 66% of fans vote Jordan as the GOAT 10.4% LeBron

Lebron made nine finals in a weak eastern conference and who lost 6 of those (and his finals record, sans a miracle shot by Ray Allen, should be 2-7, and minus a miracle vs the 73-9 warriors who were not at full strength, and he would be 1-8). He is frustrating to me because in spite of his physical gifts, he lacks the consistent killer instinct MJ had. He is like a seven year old who wants so badly to be liked, but he’s a blithering idiot when it comes to public relations - see the graffiti and the safety pin, for starters, not to mention the China stance. And on top of that, he whines like nobody else.

I’ll be glad when he is retired.

And to those comparing eras, it’s simply not possible. But, put MJ in today’s game, with the updated training technology and diet improvements, and he’d put Lebron in his place more than Kawhi has. This era’s players would not know how to handle him because none of them have the inner drive that MJ had. I don’t think MJ’s Bulls ever lost three games in a row.

Exactly, you can’t compare eras that’s why we have records and accomplishments.

All slanted data lol which is why you avoid the actual numbers.

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Let me put it this way. You're starting a team and can choose one player to build the team around: player A or player B. You're given the following individual stats/awards to help you make your decision:

-Regular season PPG: 30-27 advantage player A
-Best season PPG: 37-31 advantage player A
-Playoff PPG: 33-29 advantage player A
-Best playoff PPG: 44-35 advantage player A
-Scoring titles: 10-1 advantage player A
-MVPs: 5-4 advantage player A
-Finals MVPs: 6-3 advantage player A
-All defensive first team: 9-5 advantage player A
-All defensive teams: 9-6 advantage player A
-Defensive player of the year: 1-0 advantage player A
-Steals leader: 3-0 advantage player A

Would you choose player A and would you even have to think very hard about it?

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In fairness, you realize I can post all their stats blindly, and if you played the game correctly, you'd easily choose Lebron, right?

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Wow, this isn’t even subjective, the rules have been altered to allow more freedom and less aggressiveness in both defense and fouls. LeBron is the chief recipient of this change.

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Talk about the difference in illegal defense rules that make it wayyyyyy easier in today's game to contain 1 player...let me hear it.

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And to those comparing eras, it’s simply not possible. But, put MJ in today’s game, with the updated training technology and diet improvements, and he’d put Lebron in his place more than Kawhi has. This era’s players would not know how to handle him because none of them have the inner drive that MJ had. I don’t think MJ’s Bulls ever lost three games in a row.

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Comparing eras isn't possible, it lemme go ahead and make some shite up for a paragraph.

LeBron got the worst marks from people who never watch the NBA. That's the least shocking thing of the whole poll.

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Steph fricking Curry got more votes than Bill Russell and Magic combined.

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The OP Madking thinks Steph is better than Magic and Russell combined.

Lmao wow you people will say anything

Another false allegation you couldn’t possibly prove. What’s more telling is you’re inverting your previous argument entirely lol. Sad people