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If impeachment is the most serious event for our government
Posted on 1/29/20 at 10:11 pm
Posted on 1/29/20 at 10:11 pm
I have lost a shite ton of respect for the actual rules and grounds that the forefathers have set up. It basically came down to the first clown show of a party to weaponize it for their own political gains for it to show what horrible framework this had.
House should have to have 2/3rds to send a “recommendation for impeachment” to the senate. Likewise, there should be an immediate vote from senate on whether to hear and have a trial. If a trial happens and 2/3rds convict, THEN they should be considered impeached and removed.
The term impeach carries way more politically and very little in actuality. Lesser charges should be censure.
House should have to have 2/3rds to send a “recommendation for impeachment” to the senate. Likewise, there should be an immediate vote from senate on whether to hear and have a trial. If a trial happens and 2/3rds convict, THEN they should be considered impeached and removed.
The term impeach carries way more politically and very little in actuality. Lesser charges should be censure.
This post was edited on 1/29/20 at 10:23 pm
Posted on 1/29/20 at 10:12 pm to flyAU
The Democrats have turned this in to a political weapon; they announced their intentions to impeach the day after the election. Shameful.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 10:13 pm to flyAU
Peach Mint will be the new norm.
Another gift from Dumbocrats to destroy this union.
Another gift from Dumbocrats to destroy this union.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 10:14 pm to flyAU
quote:that doesn't make any sense
If a trial happens and 2/3rds indict THEN they should be considered impeached and removed.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 10:14 pm to flyAU
I like that idea a lot on first pass. I'll ponder it some.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 10:15 pm to flyAU
i had a similar topic drafted but deleted it. This is a clown show. Most unprofessional trial i have ever witnessed. I feel like i'm watching a college administrative review. To allow councils to fully lie and for senators to ask questions unrelated to the "trial" in forms of "gotchas" should show every citizen we should do everything we can to limit the power of our govt. there is no way you should trust any of them.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 10:21 pm to flyAU
It’s pretty crazy when you think about it. They are trying to impeach the President of the United States and most people are not even paying attention. As serious as this should be you would think that every single American would be glued to the television watching every moment. Just goes to show where we are as a country. People are too complacent in their lives to even care.
That’s how you know that this Republic is almost lost. There are not enough people who even care anymore. They think it is there god given right to live in a such a place as this and never realize how special of a place in the world that it actually is.
That’s how you know that this Republic is almost lost. There are not enough people who even care anymore. They think it is there god given right to live in a such a place as this and never realize how special of a place in the world that it actually is.
This post was edited on 1/29/20 at 10:23 pm
Posted on 1/29/20 at 10:22 pm to flyAU
Example #1
Sen. Harry Reid’s nuclear option - What could go wrong?
It changed the game forever for the Dems and became their worst nightmare.
Peach Mint will follow suit. Dems can thank the Shitt show for this one.
Sen. Harry Reid’s nuclear option - What could go wrong?
It changed the game forever for the Dems and became their worst nightmare.
Peach Mint will follow suit. Dems can thank the Shitt show for this one.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 10:38 pm to flyAU
To be fair to the framers, the standard of high crimes and misdemeanors is still the standard. Just because the Dems ignored it, doesn’t mean they had a bad framework.
I do agree that it should be a high 2/3rd threshold for both bodies. That’ll all but eliminate partisan impeachment.
I do agree that it should be a high 2/3rd threshold for both bodies. That’ll all but eliminate partisan impeachment.
Posted on 1/30/20 at 12:57 am to flyAU
While I do agree that impeachment should require more than a simple majority in the House, let's not forget that the Framers set up Congress with 2 year terms for the House and 6 year terms and gave them different functions for a myriad of reasons.
Where we have erred as a nation was in the ratification of the 17th Amendment of the Constitution, allowing voting to determine the election of US Senators over appointment by the state legislatures as was orginally intended by the Framers.
This has fostered the current environment of outside money unduly influencing Senate races. Had the 17th never passed, things would be very different today.
Where we have erred as a nation was in the ratification of the 17th Amendment of the Constitution, allowing voting to determine the election of US Senators over appointment by the state legislatures as was orginally intended by the Framers.
This has fostered the current environment of outside money unduly influencing Senate races. Had the 17th never passed, things would be very different today.
Posted on 1/30/20 at 1:22 am to flyAU
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I have lost a shite ton of respect for the actual rules and grounds that the forefathers have set up.
The whole thing was built on the premise that moral Christians would be operating the system.
Once human secularism took hold of it, it starts breaking down.
Posted on 1/30/20 at 2:15 am to flyAU
The question and answer sessions are completely idiotic. The questions are asked and then the answerer basically can give any answer on anything we wants. He can interject new facts; argue a point of law; give his opinion on the facts. He is not constrained by the actual facts.
It’s a collosal waste of time.
It’s a collosal waste of time.
Posted on 1/30/20 at 3:18 am to flyAU
quote:
I have lost a shite ton of respect for the actual rules and grounds that the forefathers have set up. It basically came down to the first clown show of a party to weaponize it for their own political gains for it to show what horrible framework this had.
The constitution was written to govern a moral and religious population = Good faith is the lynchpin of our government
No written document can control the actions of evil people acting in bad faith.
LBJ started this devolution into idiocracy - Clinton monetized it - Obama applied the knife in the back.
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