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Lumber Prices - South Mississippi
Posted on 1/25/20 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 1/25/20 at 2:30 pm
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This post was edited on 7/11/21 at 8:26 pm
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Posted on 1/25/20 at 2:43 pm to CrusaderInfidel
Seems a little low on the pulp
Posted on 1/25/20 at 3:48 pm to Theotherpikecounty
What should it be going for?
Posted on 1/25/20 at 4:19 pm to CrusaderInfidel
I got $8/ton two years ago for pine, but it went to the pellet plant in Gloster. Pine pulp at that time was $3.5/ton.
Posted on 1/25/20 at 4:23 pm to CrusaderInfidel
Getting a contract on 20 acres is impressive enough right now
Posted on 1/25/20 at 5:08 pm to CrusaderInfidel
Try checking your AG office. 
Posted on 1/25/20 at 6:48 pm to CrusaderInfidel
I was recently told the exact same prices you listed for the pine (didn’t discuss hardwood) for North MS from a guy who works for the US Forest Services. This was just in conversation, not a firm quote. He did mention to be very wary of these “good ol boy, small loggers”. He had several stories of how they can and have taken advantage of uninformed land owners.
I’ll be the first to admit, I dont know much at all about this industry, I am just beginning to learn about it as I plan to purchase land in MS.
How many tons can you expect from a truck of hardwood/pine logs or pulp?
I’ll be the first to admit, I dont know much at all about this industry, I am just beginning to learn about it as I plan to purchase land in MS.
How many tons can you expect from a truck of hardwood/pine logs or pulp?
Posted on 1/25/20 at 8:21 pm to CrusaderInfidel
How big, diameter wise are the hardwoods? Red oak? Cherry bark specifically. My first reaction is it’s probably worth more than he’s offering but I don’t know the mkt.
I was told a few months ago the red oak mkt had softened greatly in W Ms, Natchez specifically, due to the tariff situation.
I was told a few months ago the red oak mkt had softened greatly in W Ms, Natchez specifically, due to the tariff situation.
This post was edited on 1/25/20 at 8:23 pm
Posted on 1/25/20 at 9:01 pm to good_2_geaux
A truck loaded to legal weight will usually be 27-30 tons.
Posted on 1/26/20 at 8:25 am to CrusaderInfidel
Refer to “timber market prices, Mississippi state university” on internet. Very accurate. Your screwed if the logger puts your logs into pulpwood loads. Loggers make about the same on their end for a load of logs vs pulpwood. But there is a significant difference in price for a landowner for pulpwood vs logs. Logs being the better payout.
Posted on 1/26/20 at 8:29 am to Amite tiger
OP, if you do clear cut, make sure you have someone there all the time. Small operators will short change you. Not all, but some do. Oh, not a fan of clear cutting at all unless you are clearing the land all together.
Posted on 1/26/20 at 8:48 am to fishfighter
Appreciate the response. My hardwoods are primarily water oaks; what they seem to be most interested in are the big, straight pines that would be lumber. I will have them leave the white and turkey oaks and a few ponderosa pines.
Posted on 1/26/20 at 9:39 am to CrusaderInfidel
Saw logs are 12” and above at the small end. Hardwoods graded by amount of number
One common and above. In other words you can have only one knot on no more than two faces of the tree. Pine is graded on strength. Only one knot on one face of the tree. Taken up to only the second branch of the tree and cut. Cut all your “ponderosas”. Chances are they will not make it. Best seed tree option is leave 5-6, 12 - 16” diameter pines/acre. Leave what hardwoods you like. Wildlife trees are the old trees that are probably producing more acorns. Look at the bottom of such trees to see acorns. Hardwoods are deciduous, male and female. Females making more acorns. Pines are monisous both male and female on same tree. Open sun will make pines make more cones, this seeds.
One common and above. In other words you can have only one knot on no more than two faces of the tree. Pine is graded on strength. Only one knot on one face of the tree. Taken up to only the second branch of the tree and cut. Cut all your “ponderosas”. Chances are they will not make it. Best seed tree option is leave 5-6, 12 - 16” diameter pines/acre. Leave what hardwoods you like. Wildlife trees are the old trees that are probably producing more acorns. Look at the bottom of such trees to see acorns. Hardwoods are deciduous, male and female. Females making more acorns. Pines are monisous both male and female on same tree. Open sun will make pines make more cones, this seeds.
Posted on 1/26/20 at 9:49 am to yattan
Most important, have indemnity clause in your timber sale agreement. Some small loggers will leave this out.
Posted on 1/26/20 at 9:56 am to yattan
Thank you for the info; what type of indemnity clause should be in there?
Posted on 1/26/20 at 10:13 am to CrusaderInfidel
Check out what a lawyer would do an agreement for you for. Provide him the information ie deed etc., I would guess $300.00 for a simple agreement. Or check out Louisiana and Mississippi state agriculture
And forestry web sites for sample timber sale agreements or timber sale contracts etc.,
And forestry web sites for sample timber sale agreements or timber sale contracts etc.,
Posted on 1/26/20 at 8:38 pm to CrusaderInfidel
Mississippi Extension Link
Check out this link or google Mississippi stumpage prices. Stumpage is a term that refers to the value of the tree on the stump vs delivered to the mill.
Ponderosa pine is a west coast species; I don’t think you have that in south MS.
Contact the Mississippi Forestry Commission (think that is what they call themselves) for your County. They should have a forester that can give you general info.
There are many factors that determine stumpage values such as tons/ac, haul distance to the mill, mill’s inventories, ground conditions, access to a public road for example.
Check out this link or google Mississippi stumpage prices. Stumpage is a term that refers to the value of the tree on the stump vs delivered to the mill.
Ponderosa pine is a west coast species; I don’t think you have that in south MS.
Contact the Mississippi Forestry Commission (think that is what they call themselves) for your County. They should have a forester that can give you general info.
There are many factors that determine stumpage values such as tons/ac, haul distance to the mill, mill’s inventories, ground conditions, access to a public road for example.
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