- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: How do we go to war with lawfare?
Posted on 1/12/20 at 9:13 am to AggieHank86
Posted on 1/12/20 at 9:13 am to AggieHank86
quote:
well-respected, centrist outlet
Good lord, what a shiny hook you’ve thrown.
0
Posted on 1/12/20 at 9:15 am to Nono
“They” who?
The problem is a partisan ideologue of either stripe tend to think that the “center” of his party is the “center” of American politics and that anything opposite of HIS side of THAT center either is a partisan for the other side or is a sympathizer at a minimum.
Lawfare falls right into that valley between the parties, so they seem blindly-Left to an engaged “conservative” and blindly-Right to an engaged “liberal.”
Their near-uniform interpretation since founding has been in favor of a strong executive branch, causing the far Left to consider them fascists.
No, I do not expect any of the usual merry band of Trumpists to acknowledge this reality.
The problem is a partisan ideologue of either stripe tend to think that the “center” of his party is the “center” of American politics and that anything opposite of HIS side of THAT center either is a partisan for the other side or is a sympathizer at a minimum.
Lawfare falls right into that valley between the parties, so they seem blindly-Left to an engaged “conservative” and blindly-Right to an engaged “liberal.”
Their near-uniform interpretation since founding has been in favor of a strong executive branch, causing the far Left to consider them fascists.
No, I do not expect any of the usual merry band of Trumpists to acknowledge this reality.
This post was edited on 1/12/20 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 1/12/20 at 9:16 am to NimbleCat
My answer to all of your questions is:
Didn't used to be that way.
And I'm not talking about the founding. I'm talking during my lifetime.
Didn't used to be that way.
And I'm not talking about the founding. I'm talking during my lifetime.
Posted on 1/12/20 at 9:19 am to AggieHank86
quote:
Please demonstrate partisanship by Lawfare.
Did you watch any of the impeachment proceedings?
Posted on 1/12/20 at 9:19 am to AggieHank86
"Polarization surges among the politically engaged."
So, why do we get the occasional 'Both parties are the same' threads on this board?
It is impossible to be polarized and identical at the same time.
So, why do we get the occasional 'Both parties are the same' threads on this board?
It is impossible to be polarized and identical at the same time.
Posted on 1/12/20 at 9:20 am to Rebel
quote:Real time? No, not many, but I followed them otherwise. Why do you ask?
Did you watch any of the impeachment proceedings?
Posted on 1/12/20 at 9:21 am to Zach
quote:
"Polarization surges among the politically engaged."
So, why do we get the occasional 'Both parties are the same' threads on this board?
It is impossible to be polarized and identical at the same time.
It's possible that the majority of people and politicians are moderate and you have anomalies at the extremes
Which is pretty consistent with everything in nature and society
Posted on 1/12/20 at 9:23 am to AggieHank86
The guy on the left is from Lawfare. Do you not think he was “partisan”?
Posted on 1/12/20 at 9:26 am to Zach
quote:I do not see the two parties as being the same. Both have strong authoritarian wings/tendencies ... though on different issues and much less so for the GOP than for the Dems.
"Polarization surges among the politically engaged."
So, why do we get the occasional 'Both parties are the same' threads on this board?
It is impossible to be polarized and identical at the same time.
Both are far too authoritarian for my personal taste, so I often reference them as two sides of the same authoritarian coin. Admittedly, that characterization is a bit rhetorical. The GOP authoritarian wing is the size of a quarter, while the Dem side is a half-dollar coin. A dime is too big for my taste.
Posted on 1/12/20 at 9:29 am to arseinclarse
Liberal Hank defending his liberal brethren yet again
Posted on 1/12/20 at 9:33 am to arseinclarse
Anyone thinking Lawfare is centrist is in complete denial, ignorant, or biased. One look no further than the editors posts before Trump was even elected. It’s as simple as the definition of lawfare and it’s objective in fighting an “enemy.”
Posted on 1/12/20 at 9:34 am to AggieHank86
LiberalHank to the rescue!
Posted on 1/12/20 at 9:39 am to AggieHank86
Why have democratic committee leaders insisted on interviews be conducted by “counsel” instead of committee members as of late?
Posted on 1/12/20 at 9:43 am to Rebel
quote:I do not see Daniel,Goldman anywhere on the Lawfare masthead, which discloses the identities of everyone down to the law student interns, and a quick search did not return any Lawfare article written by him, but I admit that my search was cursory.
The guy on the left is from Lawfare.
quote:He was a hired attorney doing the job he was hired to do ... and doing it rather well. I am not acquainted with his personal ideology, though it seems apparent that he is not a fan of GEOTUS.
Do you not think he was “partisan”?
But let’s assume that he is indeed ideologically Left of Center. Lawfare has contributors from across the political spectrum. That is rather the ESSENCE of being non-partisan.
Can you find a random contributor at Lawfare or Brookings who is ideologically Left of Center? Sure. Probably one for every contributor who is ideologically Right of Center.
This post was edited on 1/12/20 at 9:49 am
Posted on 1/12/20 at 9:44 am to AggieHank86
quote:
Daniel Goldman was a hired attorney doing the job he was hired to do ... and doing it rather well. I am not acquainted with his personal ideology, though it seems apparent that he is not a fan of GEOTUS.
Good grief you are a fraud
Posted on 1/12/20 at 9:51 am to AggieHank86
He was “hired” to do the job elected officials traditionally do by democrats. The essence of lawfare.
You asked for partisanship examples. Don’t get all disingenuous when you are provided with one.
You asked for partisanship examples. Don’t get all disingenuous when you are provided with one.
Posted on 1/12/20 at 9:52 am to Rebel
quote:You would need to ask them.
Why have democratic committee leaders insisted on interviews be conducted by “counsel” instead of committee members as of late?
I suspect that they thought it a good idea to hire experts to perform the tasks that such experts have the training and experience to perform thoroughly and well.
Much the same reason that Senate Republicans hired an attorney for the Kav hearings. A smart move in both cases.
This post was edited on 1/12/20 at 10:01 am
Posted on 1/12/20 at 9:57 am to AggieHank86
quote:
The GOP authoritarian wing is the size of a quarter, while the Dem side is a half-dollar coin. A dime is too big for my taste.
For now, your quarter and half dollar analogy makes sense. My take though, is that the quarter is working its way to a dime as RINOs are outed, and that half dollar is working its way to six bits (although the "value" of that "money" is diminishing as the party shrinks due to poltical canibalization by extremist) .
Posted on 1/12/20 at 10:00 am to Rebel
quote:Goldman, Goldman, Goldman!!!
You asked for partisanship examples. Don’t get all disingenuous when you are provided with one.
I am still waiting for someone to link an article that Goldman contributed to Lawfare.
Again, such an article may-well exist, but my cursory search did not find one .. and he is not listed as a contributing author on the masthead.
Again, Lawfare articles are usually well-written, informative and appear to be very objective. I continue to wonder why any sane person would see it as an enemy of America ... though it is certainly not PJM or Gateway Pundit.
This post was edited on 1/12/20 at 10:50 am
Posted on 1/12/20 at 10:06 am to SDVTiger
quote:
I am not acquainted with his personal ideology, though it seems apparent that he is not a fan of GEOTUS.
Just for kicks...can you link us examples of these so called "conservative" lawfare contributors being hired by the Trump admistration. You may be able to rattle of some so this isn't a flame.
As for the highlighting of the term "conservative" above, that term is subjective. For example, I don't consider RINOs to be truly conservative by my interpretation of the term.
Page 2 of 5
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News