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re: A montage of Hollywood Thanking Harvey Weinstein

Posted on 1/11/20 at 5:33 pm to
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/11/20 at 5:33 pm to
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It's a complex issue.


It really isn't. Harvey Weinstein is a disgusting human being who used his power to force himself on women. Sure...many of those women gave their consent, but others did not.

Bottom line, the whole Harvey Weinstein scandal is just proof positive that Hollywood is morally bankrupt. They look down their noses at people like us because we think differently, but are willing to turn a blind eye to sexual predators in their midst because those sexual predators give them millions of dollars and golden statues.

Everyone knew about Harvey Weinstein, and women like Jennifer Lawrence openly sold their bodies to him to make a big splash. It wasn't until the cat was out of the bag that they abandoned him.

This post was edited on 1/11/20 at 5:34 pm
Posted by tigger1
Member since Mar 2005
3477 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 5:40 pm to
Sex and Hollywood has been going on long before any of us were born.

In 1916 it was going on and it is still going on.

Elvis bragged all the time about his game of sleeping with the leading lady in movies and he said he got them all but one.

This is nothing new, the only new angle is going for the character that makes them stars.

But that is not true as Fatty Arbuckle was thrown under the bus by a D.A. who knew the case was not there.

Meyer was known for doing the same thing as Weinstein, and he is not the only one in old Hollywood doing these things. Frank Capra made Barbara a star having a long affair with her.

Copper was not known as the "it guy" for nothing, the actress with "it" made him while their affair was going on.

That is the nature of Hollywood.
This post was edited on 1/11/20 at 5:43 pm
Posted by hogcard1964
Illinois
Member since Jan 2017
10704 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 8:31 pm to
Is it rumored that she (Jennifer Lawrence) was actually "with" Weinstein?
Posted by Hetfield
Dallas
Member since Jun 2013
7148 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 8:47 pm to
Is it rumored that she (Jennifer Lawrence) was actually "with" Weinstein?
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Ummmmmmm…...Yes. How do you think she came out of nowhere to become a star...……..

Gretchen Moll was his personal plaything. She was with him all the time to get all the roles she got. How do you think she got the role in Rounders? Jessica Alba, Jennifer Lawrence, & Blake Lively all had sex with him to help start their careers & that is only a few names. It's pretty much public knowledge in Hollywood.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
34147 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 9:34 pm to
Was there ever a list made of those we know who traded pussy for roles willingly?
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30402 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 9:53 pm to
I think folks are getting this all wrong. Not that there weren't any women who did completely willingly (if you'll allow two adverbs back to back...it feels wrong) because there surely were. But the list to which you refer, it's actually overwhelmingly comprised of women claiming forceful sex or all out rape. That group is said to number more than 60.

In my mind some are, I think, considering it consensual sex if the woman was perhaps physically able to run away from the situation but didn't. Here, sexual acts were forced upon them with the constant reminder lingering over them that "if you want the role, you'll let me finish." I just don't see that as your common instance of "consensual sex".
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 1/11/20 at 10:01 pm to
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am still unclear why everyone is upset with him.


I agree. Shouldn’t they be more upset with those who conspired to keep him in a position of power and with the women who, once they obtained Hollywood independence, failed to out him?

Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 10:26 pm to
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"if you want the role, you'll let me finish." I just don't see that as your common instance of "consensual sex".




Every whore on earth knows you aint getting the payoff if you dont let him finish.

Big question is why have none of the gals been brought up on prostitution charges, seems to be a double standard going on here.
Posted by davyjones
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Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 1/11/20 at 10:33 pm to
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Big question is why have none of the gals been brought up on prostitution charges, seems to be a double standard going on here.

I couldn't tell you for sure. I guess I could guess at it though. This is what I'm thinking: Probably because there was no prostitution involved. I'm wild, I know.

Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
30415 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 10:57 pm to
How else does a not very attractive walking bag of moles get parts in Hollywood? I would imagine with her, anything short of being in ol’ Harv’s personal snuff film was on the the table.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262475 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 11:00 pm to
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I am still unclear why everyone is upset with him.


Fake outrage. The entire industry was built on rape and sexual assault.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262475 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 11:01 pm to
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Because he was a sexual predator?


Been known for years, but they loved him then.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29179 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 11:02 pm to
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I am still unclear why everyone is upset with him.


Because I think he devolved in to a real predator. Some of the behavior was pretty gross and sounds like real rape. If the stories are true. Same thing with Bill Clinton, IMO. With Clinton it was pretty clear he raped these women.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 11:14 pm to
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I couldn't tell you for sure. I guess I could guess at it though. This is what I'm thinking: Probably because there was no prostitution involved. I'm wild, I know.



Trading sex for something of value is prositution is it not?
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30402 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 11:33 pm to
Well, I ask you one back. If I had an appointment in my office with a young lady, closed the door behind her, say I'm in my dankest of suits, the young lady....a client, and not some power broker, rather a more meek person who nobody is really concerned with. I force myself on her and although she tells me she'd really rather not, and I clearly see she's mortified at what's happening, yet she doesn't kick me in the balls and runs out screaming. Instead she reluctantly lets me finish what I started....because she is most clearly in the subordinate position, me being the big shot.

As she's walking out the door I tell her I will pull extra strings in her case and she will receive that benefit for what just occurred. She walks out deflated.

But she happily accepts the benefit I promised. Sex occurred, girl received a benefit....she guilty of prostitution?
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 11:45 pm to
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Sex occurred, girl received a benefit....she guilty of prostitution?





legally yes

I also do not think you are naive enough to believe that they did not know exactly what was going to happen when they entered his office though despite your made up scenario.


Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30402 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 11:52 pm to
I think in some cases, absolutely, the woman likely knew going in what she was there for. But in others, IMO more in number than the former, there was probably apprehension about what could be thrown at them, yet that's not what they intended to happen nor in any way wanted to happen.

And it moved into what 60+ women similarly described....and it is pretty close to my hypothetical.

And keep in mind, such circumstances are exactly why prosecutors are empowered with prosecutorial discretion. And it's apparent that their discretion has led them to conclude that prostitution charges are not warranted.
Posted by Kurt Eichenwald
Tentacle, USA
Member since Oct 2017
265 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 11:56 pm to
Thank you.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35704 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 12:19 am to
Shows what a loser Streep always was and had revealed in her comments during Trump's Presidency.

"I want to thank Harvey Weinstein, God, the Punisher they call him."

They all prayed to this creep to get them famous and then cried foul when it became public that they whored themselves out for fame.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 12:39 am to
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And keep in mind, such circumstances are exactly why prosecutors are empowered with prosecutorial discretion. And it's apparent that their discretion has led them to conclude that prostitution charges are not warranted.




I would argue their discretion is being shown to keep them for being slaughtered for not following the herd.
This post was edited on 1/12/20 at 1:01 am
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