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re: A montage of Hollywood Thanking Harvey Weinstein
Posted on 1/11/20 at 5:33 pm to Jcorye1
Posted on 1/11/20 at 5:33 pm to Jcorye1
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It's a complex issue.
It really isn't. Harvey Weinstein is a disgusting human being who used his power to force himself on women. Sure...many of those women gave their consent, but others did not.
Bottom line, the whole Harvey Weinstein scandal is just proof positive that Hollywood is morally bankrupt. They look down their noses at people like us because we think differently, but are willing to turn a blind eye to sexual predators in their midst because those sexual predators give them millions of dollars and golden statues.
Everyone knew about Harvey Weinstein, and women like Jennifer Lawrence openly sold their bodies to him to make a big splash. It wasn't until the cat was out of the bag that they abandoned him.
This post was edited on 1/11/20 at 5:34 pm
Posted on 1/11/20 at 5:40 pm to L1C4
Sex and Hollywood has been going on long before any of us were born.
In 1916 it was going on and it is still going on.
Elvis bragged all the time about his game of sleeping with the leading lady in movies and he said he got them all but one.
This is nothing new, the only new angle is going for the character that makes them stars.
But that is not true as Fatty Arbuckle was thrown under the bus by a D.A. who knew the case was not there.
Meyer was known for doing the same thing as Weinstein, and he is not the only one in old Hollywood doing these things. Frank Capra made Barbara a star having a long affair with her.
Copper was not known as the "it guy" for nothing, the actress with "it" made him while their affair was going on.
That is the nature of Hollywood.
In 1916 it was going on and it is still going on.
Elvis bragged all the time about his game of sleeping with the leading lady in movies and he said he got them all but one.
This is nothing new, the only new angle is going for the character that makes them stars.
But that is not true as Fatty Arbuckle was thrown under the bus by a D.A. who knew the case was not there.
Meyer was known for doing the same thing as Weinstein, and he is not the only one in old Hollywood doing these things. Frank Capra made Barbara a star having a long affair with her.
Copper was not known as the "it guy" for nothing, the actress with "it" made him while their affair was going on.
That is the nature of Hollywood.
This post was edited on 1/11/20 at 5:43 pm
Posted on 1/11/20 at 8:31 pm to RollTide1987
Is it rumored that she (Jennifer Lawrence) was actually "with" Weinstein?
Posted on 1/11/20 at 8:47 pm to hogcard1964
Is it rumored that she (Jennifer Lawrence) was actually "with" Weinstein?
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Ummmmmmm…...Yes. How do you think she came out of nowhere to become a star...……..
Gretchen Moll was his personal plaything. She was with him all the time to get all the roles she got. How do you think she got the role in Rounders? Jessica Alba, Jennifer Lawrence, & Blake Lively all had sex with him to help start their careers & that is only a few names. It's pretty much public knowledge in Hollywood.
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Ummmmmmm…...Yes. How do you think she came out of nowhere to become a star...……..
Gretchen Moll was his personal plaything. She was with him all the time to get all the roles she got. How do you think she got the role in Rounders? Jessica Alba, Jennifer Lawrence, & Blake Lively all had sex with him to help start their careers & that is only a few names. It's pretty much public knowledge in Hollywood.
Posted on 1/11/20 at 9:34 pm to tiggerthetooth
Was there ever a list made of those we know who traded pussy for roles willingly?
Posted on 1/11/20 at 9:53 pm to jmarto1
I think folks are getting this all wrong. Not that there weren't any women who did completely willingly (if you'll allow two adverbs back to back...it feels wrong) because there surely were. But the list to which you refer, it's actually overwhelmingly comprised of women claiming forceful sex or all out rape. That group is said to number more than 60.
In my mind some are, I think, considering it consensual sex if the woman was perhaps physically able to run away from the situation but didn't. Here, sexual acts were forced upon them with the constant reminder lingering over them that "if you want the role, you'll let me finish." I just don't see that as your common instance of "consensual sex".
In my mind some are, I think, considering it consensual sex if the woman was perhaps physically able to run away from the situation but didn't. Here, sexual acts were forced upon them with the constant reminder lingering over them that "if you want the role, you'll let me finish." I just don't see that as your common instance of "consensual sex".
Posted on 1/11/20 at 10:01 pm to cave canem
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am still unclear why everyone is upset with him.
I agree. Shouldn’t they be more upset with those who conspired to keep him in a position of power and with the women who, once they obtained Hollywood independence, failed to out him?
Posted on 1/11/20 at 10:26 pm to davyjones
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"if you want the role, you'll let me finish." I just don't see that as your common instance of "consensual sex".
Every whore on earth knows you aint getting the payoff if you dont let him finish.
Big question is why have none of the gals been brought up on prostitution charges, seems to be a double standard going on here.
Posted on 1/11/20 at 10:33 pm to cave canem
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Big question is why have none of the gals been brought up on prostitution charges, seems to be a double standard going on here.
I couldn't tell you for sure. I guess I could guess at it though. This is what I'm thinking: Probably because there was no prostitution involved. I'm wild, I know.
Posted on 1/11/20 at 10:57 pm to Hetfield
How else does a not very attractive walking bag of moles get parts in Hollywood? I would imagine with her, anything short of being in ol’ Harv’s personal snuff film was on the the table.
Posted on 1/11/20 at 11:00 pm to cave canem
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I am still unclear why everyone is upset with him.
Fake outrage. The entire industry was built on rape and sexual assault.
Posted on 1/11/20 at 11:01 pm to 0
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Because he was a sexual predator?
Been known for years, but they loved him then.
Posted on 1/11/20 at 11:02 pm to cave canem
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I am still unclear why everyone is upset with him.
Because I think he devolved in to a real predator. Some of the behavior was pretty gross and sounds like real rape. If the stories are true. Same thing with Bill Clinton, IMO. With Clinton it was pretty clear he raped these women.
Posted on 1/11/20 at 11:14 pm to davyjones
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I couldn't tell you for sure. I guess I could guess at it though. This is what I'm thinking: Probably because there was no prostitution involved. I'm wild, I know.
Trading sex for something of value is prositution is it not?
Posted on 1/11/20 at 11:33 pm to cave canem
Well, I ask you one back. If I had an appointment in my office with a young lady, closed the door behind her, say I'm in my dankest of suits, the young lady....a client, and not some power broker, rather a more meek person who nobody is really concerned with. I force myself on her and although she tells me she'd really rather not, and I clearly see she's mortified at what's happening, yet she doesn't kick me in the balls and runs out screaming. Instead she reluctantly lets me finish what I started....because she is most clearly in the subordinate position, me being the big shot.
As she's walking out the door I tell her I will pull extra strings in her case and she will receive that benefit for what just occurred. She walks out deflated.
But she happily accepts the benefit I promised. Sex occurred, girl received a benefit....she guilty of prostitution?
As she's walking out the door I tell her I will pull extra strings in her case and she will receive that benefit for what just occurred. She walks out deflated.
But she happily accepts the benefit I promised. Sex occurred, girl received a benefit....she guilty of prostitution?
Posted on 1/11/20 at 11:45 pm to davyjones
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Sex occurred, girl received a benefit....she guilty of prostitution?
legally yes
I also do not think you are naive enough to believe that they did not know exactly what was going to happen when they entered his office though despite your made up scenario.
Posted on 1/11/20 at 11:52 pm to cave canem
I think in some cases, absolutely, the woman likely knew going in what she was there for. But in others, IMO more in number than the former, there was probably apprehension about what could be thrown at them, yet that's not what they intended to happen nor in any way wanted to happen.
And it moved into what 60+ women similarly described....and it is pretty close to my hypothetical.
And keep in mind, such circumstances are exactly why prosecutors are empowered with prosecutorial discretion. And it's apparent that their discretion has led them to conclude that prostitution charges are not warranted.
And it moved into what 60+ women similarly described....and it is pretty close to my hypothetical.
And keep in mind, such circumstances are exactly why prosecutors are empowered with prosecutorial discretion. And it's apparent that their discretion has led them to conclude that prostitution charges are not warranted.
Posted on 1/12/20 at 12:19 am to tiggerthetooth
Shows what a loser Streep always was and had revealed in her comments during Trump's Presidency.
"I want to thank Harvey Weinstein, God, the Punisher they call him."
They all prayed to this creep to get them famous and then cried foul when it became public that they whored themselves out for fame.
"I want to thank Harvey Weinstein, God, the Punisher they call him."
They all prayed to this creep to get them famous and then cried foul when it became public that they whored themselves out for fame.
Posted on 1/12/20 at 12:39 am to davyjones
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And keep in mind, such circumstances are exactly why prosecutors are empowered with prosecutorial discretion. And it's apparent that their discretion has led them to conclude that prostitution charges are not warranted.
I would argue their discretion is being shown to keep them for being slaughtered for not following the herd.
This post was edited on 1/12/20 at 1:01 am
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