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re: Health and Fitness Board Strength and Conditioning program

Posted on 1/24/20 at 11:30 am to
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/24/20 at 11:30 am to
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Bench is typically twice a week in a strength program. This is more of a weightlifting program.



Depends on if it's a strength or powerlifting programming. Personally I like the way wendler lays out the building the monolith template were you are hitting press and squat twice weekly and bench/deads only once.

In my experience most people are extremely week in the vertical plane. Both pulling and pushing so I like to see more vertical than horizontal plane movements with lots of facepulls/band pull aparts for shoulder health.

I actually prefer that bench not be programmed at all and use weighted dips instead, again due to overall weakness of the Gen pop- in the vertical plane.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22211 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 11:57 am to
In my experience, OHP never needed to be programmed as my shoulders got super strong from benching. I didn’t lift OHP at all for 2 years and started off with a 235 max and felt I didn’t want to go any further as I was training for a powerlifting comp.

OHP is about bracing same as benching. It’s becoming a fad to do OHP over bench just like bench took over OHP.

When I think of strength programs, I think of functional athletes. Vertical strength won’t be as beneficial as horizontal. In football, I’d rather the bracing abilities in lats and chest over whatever OHP would do.

Sport specific like weightlifting? No chest is needed.

This is a weightlifting program with a sprinkle of chest to appease the general strength.

I wouldn’t tell a novice to do dips at all until they’ve mastered bracing with lats. That’s a torn shoulder and hurt elbows waiting to happen.

This post was edited on 1/24/20 at 11:59 am
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