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re: Who here is in a union? Do you feel it helps or hurts?

Posted on 1/9/20 at 2:32 pm to
Posted by Tiger in Texas
Houston, Texas
Member since Sep 2004
20897 posts
Posted on 1/9/20 at 2:32 pm to
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This country was built on unions.. You can thank unions for having a the weekend off and a 40 hr (in most cases) standard work week.


My dad worked his whole life in pipefitters union starting back in the 50's, I did for a short time. However, the unions suffered when they were forced to integrate. Suddenly, they were taking in people off the streets to fill quotas mandated by the feds. My Dad saw it happen and what it did to workers. People brought in were suddenly making the same money as skilled welders and pipefitters but not doing any work, so all production slowed down.
Back in the early years of the 20th century, unions did good, however, in today's world, they have outlived there usefulness. Look at what they have done to the auto industry in this country- holding the car companies for ransom!
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 1/9/20 at 2:39 pm to
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in today's world, they have outlived there usefulness


This has become such a tired, cliche response. Just look at the widening wage gap between blue collar wages and executive pay. Visit some factories out there that cut corners on employee safety. There is still a need for unions.


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Look at what they have done to the auto industry in this country



Management shares equal blame for the state of the US auto industry. They sat on their hands in the 80's and early 90's when more fuel efficient Japanese built cars started flooding the market. They were way too slow to respond to the move to more fuel efficient cars, which is inexcusable after the 70's gas crisis. Government shares some blame as well with NAFTA, which saw several US plants get moved to Mexico and cheaper labor.
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