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re: Like to hear the libertarian reaction to Trump's handling of Iran...

Posted on 1/8/20 at 7:34 pm to
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 7:34 pm to
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do you advocate accelerating that destruction from debt and sloth, by allowing criminal illegals to walk over our southern border, or do you advocate minimizing or slowing down that destruction, by doing everything possible to keep criminal illegals out of our country?
I advocate avoiding brain-dead-stupid binary choices.

I interact regularly with our "illegal alien" population, and I think it is largely hard-working and productive. In fact, I greatly-prefer them to a significant percentage of our native-born population in every way from work ethic to food and music choices.

There is no evidence that they vote in significant numbers or any evidence for the vast majority of the claims made against them (crime, etcetera). I think that most of the xenophobia we see against them (as here) comes largely from people who have little to no contact with them and who have absolutely no idea what they are talking about.

In VERY short form, I think we should have an extensive and accessible guest worker program with vetting of participants for criminal history and easy access for those without a criminal record. The guest workers should not be granted an accelerated path to citizenship. Their children should not be granted automatic citizenship unless the other parent is a citizen, and children of TWO guest workers should not be entitled to any governmental benefits (including education).

The guest workers themselves should not be entitled to access to any federal entitlement program, and each state should be able to decide for itself whether they would have access to state programs.
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 7:35 pm to
Speaking of sperging out...
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13355 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 7:53 pm to
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I interact regularly with our "illegal alien" population, and I think it is largely hard-working and productive.


It doesn’t matter if they are hard working, productive, attractive, repulsive, fat, skinny, mean, or nice. They are illegal aliens. The government of their native countries would not allow you to do in their country, what they are doing in yours. Most likely, they would throw your arse in jail.

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There is no evidence that they vote in significant numbers or any evidence for the vast majority of the claims made against them (crime, etcetera).


I’m not responsible for the vast majority of claims, or even know what most of those claims state. What we do know is that they do in fact vote, they are in fact included in the census, therefore making those states more powerful in congress, and they do in fact commit heinous crimes against citizens and others.

This post was edited on 1/8/20 at 7:54 pm
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