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re: President Trump tweets about Mexican cartels.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 6:53 pm to Eli Goldfinger
Posted on 12/6/19 at 6:53 pm to Eli Goldfinger
I can’t wait to hear the Dems defend the cartels
Posted on 12/6/19 at 6:59 pm to GumboPot
I think treating them like terrorist organizations is the right way to go.
I hope it all gets done in close collaboration with the Mexican federal government and Military, and even would like to Canada contribute as well since the problem in a North American one.
I give Trump credit for being the first president to say it out loud. I think the last two presidents didn’t place enough priority on eliminating the cartels.
I wish I trusted Trump to manage the process in a competent way.
I hope it all gets done in close collaboration with the Mexican federal government and Military, and even would like to Canada contribute as well since the problem in a North American one.
I give Trump credit for being the first president to say it out loud. I think the last two presidents didn’t place enough priority on eliminating the cartels.
I wish I trusted Trump to manage the process in a competent way.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 7:00 pm to TopFlightSecurity
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If we really wanted to get rid of cartels we'd legalize drugs and quit buying their product at a 98% profit margin.
They'll just go after other revenue streams... like avacados... which they are already doing
4 of Mexico's cartels are fighting for control of the avocado business
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The cartels charge a monthly protection payment from avocado producers, calculated per hectare cultivated or kilogram exported. Those who fail to make the payments may be kidnapped or killed. One distributor's daughter was assassinated at the door of his business, El País reported.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 7:06 pm to samiam5211
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I think treating them like terrorist organizations is the right way to go.
I don’t believe we on this board have a clear understanding of what that official declaration would entail. If it’s equivalent to your typical ME terrorists country not only would Mexico be fricked but any one doing business in Mexico would be fricked.
At this point Trump is just using it as a cudgel to get Mexico’s cartels in line even with our help.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 7:20 pm to GumboPot
Yea, that is my concern as well.
I’d rather they call it something other than terrorist, but treat it similar so that it would allow us to support the home country’s military in the fight against them. It doesn’t have to be military forces on the ground. we could just cooperate more on intel and maybe some material support.
I’d rather they call it something other than terrorist, but treat it similar so that it would allow us to support the home country’s military in the fight against them. It doesn’t have to be military forces on the ground. we could just cooperate more on intel and maybe some material support.
This post was edited on 12/6/19 at 7:55 pm
Posted on 12/6/19 at 7:32 pm to TheArrogantCorndog
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They'll just go after other revenue streams
Exactly.
This is why the whole "legalizing drugs will get rid of the cartels" is bogus.
just my opinion.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 7:41 pm to GumboPot
Brilliant move by our Brilliant President. IF President Trump declares the filth frick cartels terrorists, then Obrador knows the next step would be for the United States to declare the Mexican government a "State Sponsor of Terrorism." They don't want that. Decision time for Obrador. Do something (with our help of course), or do nothing and we'll start blowing shite up anyway.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 8:44 pm to GumboPot
Sweet. Everybody get your hookers and blow now before it's too late
Posted on 12/6/19 at 8:53 pm to GumboPot
Dont be a bitch Trump.
Mexicos president is pussy. Tell him what the frick to do.
Mexicos president is pussy. Tell him what the frick to do.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 8:57 pm to WaWaWeeWa
Taking out all of the cartels would help establish enough security to encourage investment. And Mexico with a functioning economy does not produce an immigration problem.
We’d all prefer if the next generation of Apple products were produced in the United States, but we don’t want to pay double the current price and apple stockholders do t want to give up significant profit.
I’d rather it be here, but Mexico is far better than China.
We’d all prefer if the next generation of Apple products were produced in the United States, but we don’t want to pay double the current price and apple stockholders do t want to give up significant profit.
I’d rather it be here, but Mexico is far better than China.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 10:22 pm to GumboPot
Stupidity. Double down on the War on Drugs? Prohibition has NEVER worked. This will just cost more money and lives and not solve the problem.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 10:24 pm to Dale51
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Exactly.
This is why the whole "legalizing drugs will get rid of the cartels" is bogus.
just my opinion.
No way man, if drugs were legalized the cartels would just say "Oh well, we had a good run" and become peaceful peasant farmers.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 10:28 pm to blueboy
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Mexican weed sucks anyway.
Who has good weed these days? Asking for a friend.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 10:29 pm to Dale51
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This is why the whole "legalizing drugs will get rid of the cartels" is bogus
Ending Prohibition crippled organized crime in the states.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 10:32 pm to gthog61
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No way man, if drugs were legalized the cartels would just say "Oh well, we had a good run" and become peaceful peasant farmers.
Its the best that topflightard thinks they would lose 98% of their money
Posted on 12/6/19 at 10:33 pm to Dale51
Legalizing “drugs” is about realizing that our civil liberties are being quashed. And also about realizing that it ought to be a medical issue, not a criminal one.
Posted on 12/7/19 at 12:01 am to GumboPot
Joint efforts?
How long has that tune been played the last 40 years?
President of Mexico doesn't want to get assassinated.
That's why he's backing down on what Trump wanted to do.
How long has that tune been played the last 40 years?
President of Mexico doesn't want to get assassinated.
That's why he's backing down on what Trump wanted to do.
Posted on 12/7/19 at 7:14 am to TheArrogantCorndog
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They'll just go after other revenue streams... like avacados... which they are already doing
Sure they will. No one denies that. Would you rather the cartels be major players in the $10 billion global avocado industry or the $300+ billion global illegal drug industry?
I know which one I would choose. Monthly protection payments are nothing compared to the profits off of drugs. I have doubts that the cartels will be able to expand into other industries within the US to the extent of the post-prohibition mafia simply because they are based in foreign countries.
Do you really think that cutting off tens of billions of dollars going to the cartels will not significantly impact them? If all the law enforcement officers stopped focusing on drugs and instead focused on real crimes like gun, human, and sex trafficking, how much further would the cartels' businesses be reduced?
Only foolish people think that legalizing drugs won't severely impact the cartels. We've learned nothing from prohibition, apparently.
Posted on 12/7/19 at 7:18 am to SDVTiger
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Its the best that topflightard thinks they would lose 98% of their money
That's not what he said. He said drugs have a 98% profit margin. Considering the cost to produce vs the street value of small quantities (and the inflated value that law enforcement gives them to make themselves look better), it is probably not that inaccurate. He is not saying that cartels get 98% of their money from drugs.
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