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re: US oil production has increased 300,000 barrels per day in Nov alone
Posted on 11/29/19 at 12:11 am to JasonL79
Posted on 11/29/19 at 12:11 am to JasonL79
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There are already quite a few NG pipelines and a lot of the new up and coming plant builds include pipeline builds with it. 2-3 of these NG plants FID’ed this year and several more planned by next year.
But that doesn't help with regards to where demand is going to be, which is in Europe, India, and China. Russia and Iran have quite a bit of NG infrastructure already, with Iran already having projects going to India and a possible deal with China.
Posted on 11/29/19 at 12:15 am to crazy4lsu
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But that doesn't help with regards to where demand is going to be, which is in Europe, India, and China. Russia and Iran have quite a bit of NG infrastructure already, with Iran already having projects going to India and a possible deal with China.
Yes it does help. All of the plants being built are export plants and the NG processed into LNG will be loaded on ships to transport it to those same countries you mentioned.
Posted on 11/29/19 at 12:42 am to JasonL79
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Yes it does help. All of the plants being built are export plants and the NG processed into LNG will be loaded on ships to transport it to those same countries you mentioned.
True, but we are at a significant disadvantage moving it by shipload instead of by pipeline which Russia and Iran do, cheaper to transport and no storage required by pipeline.
Posted on 11/29/19 at 12:49 am to JasonL79
It was my understanding that shipping NG had limitations, and was less profitable than through pipelines. Am I mistaken?
I think cutting into Russian market share in Europe is conditional on lots of things, and probably less feasible than other markets. I think NG exports to Europe only account for less than 10 billion cubic meters since 2016, while at the same time Russian exported 160 billion cubic meters in the same time frame. I'm even less sure about India, as work on an Iran-Pakistan pipeline has already begun, and there is already talk of expanding the pipeline to India, as Iran has good relations with India. An India-US trade deal is complicated, and I'm skeptical a full deal can be negotiated before 2020, with a partial deal likely. Even at this stage, India imports more oil from 9 countries than it does from the US.
China also has built it's own pipelines to central Asia, while also increasing imports from Russia, with a new agreement going into effect in 2018.
I have no doubt the US will be a player in NG markets, though. The geopolitics at play (with regard to sanctions, and whether the Iranian government will survive into the new decade) make things very interesting.
I think cutting into Russian market share in Europe is conditional on lots of things, and probably less feasible than other markets. I think NG exports to Europe only account for less than 10 billion cubic meters since 2016, while at the same time Russian exported 160 billion cubic meters in the same time frame. I'm even less sure about India, as work on an Iran-Pakistan pipeline has already begun, and there is already talk of expanding the pipeline to India, as Iran has good relations with India. An India-US trade deal is complicated, and I'm skeptical a full deal can be negotiated before 2020, with a partial deal likely. Even at this stage, India imports more oil from 9 countries than it does from the US.
China also has built it's own pipelines to central Asia, while also increasing imports from Russia, with a new agreement going into effect in 2018.
I have no doubt the US will be a player in NG markets, though. The geopolitics at play (with regard to sanctions, and whether the Iranian government will survive into the new decade) make things very interesting.
This post was edited on 11/29/19 at 12:53 am
Posted on 11/29/19 at 7:37 am to trinidadtiger
Heading back to my drillship Tuesday to continue drilling!!!!!!!
Posted on 11/29/19 at 8:33 am to cave canem
Cave is technically right. That's the period fracking exploded.
Obama didn't have a fricking thing to do with the explosion of the fracking industry.
Obama didn't have a fricking thing to do with the explosion of the fracking industry.
Posted on 11/29/19 at 8:46 am to bamarep
Do you blame him for QE and ZIRP? If so, he bares some responsibility for hyper charging the shale boom.
Posted on 11/29/19 at 8:49 am to crazy4lsu
One problem with LNG right now is that when the projects started the spread was roughly $10+, now there’s a glut of gas on the international market and its trading around $5 so the spread is down to $2.50. Turns out there’s too much fricking gas in the world!
Posted on 11/29/19 at 9:23 am to cave canem
Obama unnecessarily shut down offshore drilling in USGOM, and it hasn’t recovered yet! He also placed federal lands off limits for drilling, and cancelled offshore lease sales on the Atlantic coasts do GOM!
Productivity increased due to capitalism working on private land! He did nothing to promote oil and gas, but did a lot to hinder it!
Productivity increased due to capitalism working on private land! He did nothing to promote oil and gas, but did a lot to hinder it!
This post was edited on 11/29/19 at 9:24 am
Posted on 11/29/19 at 9:36 am to cwill
quote:That's what I'm hearing, too, that overseas inventories are stocked with storage basically at full capacity. A really cold winter could help that situation, though.
there’s a glut of gas on the international market
The other problem facing LNG exports to Europe is, the U.S. can build all the export facilities it wants, but there have to be facilities that can import that LNG, and those facilities are still probably years away in a lot of places over there.
Talking with representatives of some Central European countries, they want to bring in American LNG, but they don't have the infrastructure to get it there right now. Plus, with Germany trying the green energy route, that part of Europe is going to have to watch that fiasco play out before the EU changes course and starts promoting the import of LNG.
Overall, I think there's a bit of a lull coming in the LNG market for the next couple of years, but over the next decade, it will rebound and become more attractive as LNG remains safe, abundant, clean, and more transferable around the world.
Posted on 11/29/19 at 9:44 am to bamarep
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Cave is technically right. That's the period fracking exploded.
Obama didn't have a fricking thing to do with the explosion of the fracking industry.
I would never argue he did anything to cause it nor did I, some people either have extremely poor reading comprehension or are so delusional that facts trigger them.
Posted on 11/29/19 at 9:59 am to cwill
Most of the LNG projects going on right now are 3-5 years away from being able to export LNG. It’s very likely I will end up working on one of these projects.
It will be interesting to see how demand plays out in that time frame. Natural gas is showing up now as fuel for offshore supply boats, ships, vehicles, etc.
It will be interesting to see how demand plays out in that time frame. Natural gas is showing up now as fuel for offshore supply boats, ships, vehicles, etc.
Posted on 11/29/19 at 11:56 am to JasonL79
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Do you know that Shell, Chevron, and Exxon are all trying to get more heavily involved in the Permian? Like I said before, I don’t think it is nearly as bleak as you think. I would think some of these slumping companies could get bought up by supers just like Chevron attempted with Anadarko this year.
Oxy bought Anadarko, got skinned by Buffet to get the money to do it and is now getting killed in the market. Icahn is now trying to take control of the board to shitcan Vicki Hollub who proved that women can destroy capital just as well as men!
Look you keep bringing up 2-3 super majors and what they’re doing. By the way you left out the BP purchase of BHP’s US onshore. I’m not saying the industry is going belly up or that all projects are uneconomic or, even, that all shale is uneconomic. The shale revolution was oversold - the size, the productivity - none of it meeting the claims. The result is a massive pull back in the equity mkts, capital mkts shut, layoffs and BKs. Just look at the stock performance of the E&P sector over the last year - not a single winner in a record bull market.
By the way cvx and xom have had significant layoffs over the last 4 years and the rumor on the street is cvx is about to have another...which is needed if they’re going to bet big on shale.
Posted on 11/29/19 at 11:59 am to JasonL79
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It will be interesting to see how demand plays out in that time frame. Natural gas is showing up now as fuel for offshore supply boats, ships, vehicles, etc.
I see it in industry but almost nowhere else. It needs to be more widely used but is limited by a lack of end user/retail infra and resistance from large population consumers in the NE and west coast. In the NE there is an ocean of gas but they are fighting the pipelines to add supply to the city which is resulting in high consumer prices. It’s crazy! And, of course, SF has banned any gas hookups on new construction.
Posted on 11/29/19 at 12:09 pm to cwill
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The shale revolution was oversold - the size, the productivity - none of it meeting the claims. The result is a massive pull back in the equity mkts, capital mkts shut, layoffs and BKs. Just look at the stock performance of the E&P sector over the last year - not a single winner in a record bull market.
I think this thought is generally accepted. Commodity market and it's cyclical nature. Oh well. What's your solution?
Posted on 11/29/19 at 3:05 pm to Stingray
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I think this thought is generally accepted.
Not so much in this thread.
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Commodity market and it's cyclical nature.
Prices aren't terrible right now and the losses were also occurring during $100.
ETA: And no more pre-packaged BKs where the company reemerges with restructured debt with the same shite mgmt team or some other replacement laggards that then manage the zombie-co for their own personal benefit as it slides back into Chap 11 (now ruefully referred to within industry as the ole Chap 22).
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What's your solution?
I think it's starting to take place due to outside pressure from investors and banks. More BKs to clean out the shitcos and stop all of the marginal and uneconomic drilling. The fire needs to keep burning.
This post was edited on 11/29/19 at 3:14 pm
Posted on 11/29/19 at 3:57 pm to cwill
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100. ETA: And no more pre-packaged BKs where the company reemerges with restructured debt with the same shite mgmt team or some other replacement laggards that then manage the zombie-co for their own personal benefit as it slides back into Chap 11 (now ruefully referred to within industry as the ole Chap 22).
Halcon x2
Posted on 11/29/19 at 4:04 pm to Beamstain
Vanguard X2.
I predict future 22s in:
EP Energy
Sanchez
Silverbow (formerly Swift)
I predict future 22s in:
EP Energy
Sanchez
Silverbow (formerly Swift)
Posted on 11/29/19 at 6:55 pm to JasonL79
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Natural gas is showing up now as fuel for offshore supply boats
I work on one
Posted on 11/29/19 at 8:41 pm to cwill
LNG is not going to pan out anything like it was thought. WAY too much supply for decades to come all across the globe.
As for the majors betting big on shale it is because they have a completely different plan for it and end goal than everyone else.
CWILL is correct in saying the blood bath isn't over for the shale patch. In the end there will be a handful of companies owning it all, which is what they intended all along.
As for the majors betting big on shale it is because they have a completely different plan for it and end goal than everyone else.
CWILL is correct in saying the blood bath isn't over for the shale patch. In the end there will be a handful of companies owning it all, which is what they intended all along.
This post was edited on 11/29/19 at 8:43 pm
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