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re: Who would be best equipped to win the CFP with a backup QB?

Posted on 11/19/19 at 12:49 pm to
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
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Posted on 11/19/19 at 12:49 pm to
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When you have a RB averaging 5.0 ypc, guess what the smart thing to do is?



keep running your offense that is producing his 5 YPC. Going one dimensional for a drive can often work, especially if you catch a defense with a bad personnel grouping and run tempo. Squatting on a lead with the run game usually ends up in a furious comeback if the other side has an offense that you can't stop either
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 11/19/19 at 12:51 pm to
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Came within an onside kick of completing a 20-point comeback
Onside kicks are worth 6 points?


And, regardless, you think they play better against LSU with their backup?
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 11/19/19 at 12:52 pm to
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I’ll be more than fair to your point and say that this accounts for 2.5 of CEH’s 7.5 ypc.

When you have a RB averaging 5.0 ypc, guess what the smart thing to do is?



So riddle me this-in 2016, and 2017, LSU had a RB that averaged over 5 ypc, AND better defenses. They lost 4 games in each of those seasons.
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 11/19/19 at 12:52 pm to
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So you think that the passing game is effective because teams are worried about the run?
It’s a symbiotic relationship. If I’m defending LSU, I have to pick my poison. If I pick the run as my poison, I get steamrolled, and there’s nothing I can do about it. If I pick the pass, there are more opportunities for me there. A passing game is inherently more risky than a running game.

Especially when you consider the situation with the defense, namely Delpit and Divinity. The more you run, the more clock you burn. The more clock you burn, the less your defense has to play. The less your defense has to play, the healthier your defense is. The healthier your defense is, the better your defense is. The better your defense is, the fewer points your opponent scores. The fewer points your opponent scores, the less likely it is that a game you should have won by 50 comes down to an onside kick.

Reckless playcalling has resulted in two unnecessarily close calls in games where we were WAY better than the opponent and way more dominant than the score indicated.
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 11/19/19 at 12:54 pm to
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keep running your offense that is producing his 5 YPC
You missed my point pretty badly.
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 11/19/19 at 12:55 pm to
So what’s the riddle?
Posted by kciDAtaE
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Posted on 11/19/19 at 12:59 pm to
Burrow, Hurts, Fields are all backup QBs
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 11/19/19 at 1:12 pm to
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So what’s the riddle?




if beating every team on your schedule is as easy as riding out a RB that is averaging over 5.0 ypc, then why didn't LSU do it in those years?

I guess you did say "any acceptable" QB, which is a pretty vague statement.
This post was edited on 11/19/19 at 1:14 pm
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
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Posted on 11/19/19 at 1:13 pm to
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Reckless playcalling has resulted in two unnecessarily close calls in games where we were WAY better than the opponent and way more dominant than the score indicated.


I'll give you auburn, but LSU outgained Alabama by 19 yards and had two unforced turnovers. In no way were they "WAY" better and more dominant over the course of that entire game. It was a tale of two halves. LSU turned those first half turnovers into points. There was nothing reckless about the playcalling for LSU in the second half of that game, bama's defense just managed a few stops, the same way the LSU did in the first half.
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 11/19/19 at 1:16 pm to
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if beating every team on your schedule is as easy as riding out a RB that is averaging over 5.0 ypc, then why didn't LSU do it in those years?
This one’s better.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 11/19/19 at 1:18 pm to
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This one’s better.



Oh, okay. Why did he only average 4.5 ypc last year?
This post was edited on 11/19/19 at 1:20 pm
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 11/19/19 at 1:32 pm to
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In no way were they "WAY" better and more dominant over the course of that entire game
That’s my point. They would have been if they’d have run the ball.

Lsu got the ball to begin the second half, up 20.

First five plays: 5 rushes, 39 yards
Next three plays: incomplete pass, sack, fumble

Next possession, five plays, 37 yards, all gained by CEH. Drive killed by two incomplete passes and a penalty.

Next possession, a short run, a big pass play, then three passes, two incomplete, then a punt.

Next possession, TD drive. 7 passes for 38 yards, 5 rushes for 37.

Next possession, TD drive. 4 pass plays for 46 yards (one big gain + 1 sack), 3 rushes for 29.

Final possession, CEH one run for 12 yards, then LSU takes a knee.


Awful playcalling on those first three possessions let Bama back in the game just like Texas (3&out in the shotgun to begin 2nd half). Running the ball would have broken their backs, but LSU is reckless on offense.
This post was edited on 11/19/19 at 1:34 pm
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 11/19/19 at 1:32 pm to
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Why did he only average 4.5 ypc last year?
He got better.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 11/19/19 at 1:38 pm to
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Congrats. You managed to somehow put Bama into this conversation
To be fair, it’s silly that Alabama isn’t in the OP.

“I won’t include Alabama in this debate because they’re already on their backup QB.”

Uhm, what? Lol
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 11/19/19 at 1:40 pm to
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And Bama is a horrific answer anyway. We saw what Bama did AT HONE WITH TUA against LSU
Am I just not understanding the OP?
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 11/19/19 at 1:49 pm to
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To be fair, it’s silly that Alabama isn’t in the OP.

“I won’t include Alabama in this debate because they’re already on their backup QB.”

Uhm, what? Lol
Bama fans ladies and gentleman


You werent included because you are no longer a contender......read the beginning of the damn OP


Entitled elitist gumps
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 11/19/19 at 1:54 pm to
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if beating every team on your schedule is as easy as riding out a RB that is averaging over 5.0 ypc, then why didn't LSU do it in those years?

You mentioned this 2-3 times, poster replied to it each time, never addressed your question/riddle/point.

It was a solid way to hammer that point home on your part.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 11/19/19 at 1:59 pm to
What in the absolute frick, dude?

OP went out of their way to explain why Alabama isn’t on HIS list. The reasoning makes absolutely no sense and has NOTHING to do with Alabama officially not being a contender anymore.

You’re losing your fricking mind.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 11/19/19 at 3:05 pm to
Bama
Is
Done

Stop trying to shoe horn then into threads about contenders gumps. I know life is hard for y’all when the tahd season is over before thanksgiving
Posted by East Coast Band
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Posted on 11/19/19 at 3:13 pm to
Every school who has a decent starting quarterback will be majorly affected by an injury.
Some of the factors that mitigate this would be good OC, good Oline, good RB, in that order.
On the other hand, a team like Georgia, whose qb is not having a top notch season, may not see as much of a difference, plus they have a good defense to overcome slow offense
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