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What does last night’s D performance tell us?

Posted on 11/17/19 at 7:34 am
Posted by doctatigah
Member since Oct 2016
1073 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 7:34 am
So, look, I work in a field that uses a lot of analytics to make decisions. Outliers and weird one-off scenarios are appropriately weighted to ensure that we don’t over-extrapolate data that’s broadly outside of the norm.

Ole Miss’ offensive style is a nightmare for the DNA of this defense. That said, you’d hope that you can scheme appropriately to mitigate the situation. But I don’t know just how much of an outlier this production is — the defense has not been elite all year.

It’s pretty clear Aranda deserves some blame. How much, I don’t know. But Chaisson has been a disaster as far as not doing his job (edge contain), and others (linebackers, d-line, and Delpit) played poorly as well. Outside of Stingley and CF, the whole unit has severely disappointed.

But given the uniqueness of the OM QB and that system, what does last night imply — in a predictive sense — for the future? I no longer think LSU will curb-stomp TAMU, although I still hope for it. The SECc should be a solid style matchup, which ought to mask some of the inherent stylistic weaknesses of this particular defense.

But beyond that, I wonder what sort of fits OSU or OK will give this team. Rest should help Delpit, but the larger issues remain. It’s wild that at this point in the season I still am not confident about just how good this defensive unit can be.
Posted by JumpingTheShark
America
Member since Nov 2012
24687 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 7:38 am to
I think you are right in speaking of outliers, the defense has made improvements since the beginning of the year. This was a CLASSIC hangover/trap game. You could tell our hearts weren’t 100% into it. I expect them to look much better against Arkansas.
Posted by Cincinnati Bowtie
Sparta
Member since May 2008
11951 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 7:41 am to
Let’s see what they do next year after Rice and before Nicholls State, instead of the week after Alabama.
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
28279 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 7:41 am to
Nothing.

Last night was a “cupcake” game. And it especially became a cupcake game when LSU went up 31-7.

And like all cupcake games, take nothing from it... Just get the W and move on. The only big question going into last night was “will LSU have a letdown post-Bama?” And the answer was No.

Not saying the coaches and players shouldn’t watch the film and improve, certainly they should, but as to fans we learned nothing new about this LSU team last night that we didn’t already know:

-Exceptional offense and QB
-defense that can be suspect at times
-undefeated overall and ranked #1
-magic number to win division down to 1
-playoff “mulligan” still in pocket


Interesting fact: Bama beat Ole Miss 59-31 in Tuscaloosa this year. Score look familiar?
This post was edited on 11/17/19 at 7:48 am
Posted by 225Tyga
Member since Oct 2013
19413 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 7:43 am to
TLDR it tells us nothing honestly
Posted by loustuni
Member since Jul 2008
4184 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 7:43 am to
If the D can hold teams to less points than the offense, then what does it matter. It’s perspective, 21-0 looks better than 58-37.. I don’t really care as long as they win.
Posted by GetBackToWork
Member since Dec 2007
6521 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 7:44 am to
Being home the next two games will help. Arkansas will be a nice break, but Jimbo Fisher, for all their issues, could try to take advantage of our defensive issues and catch us off guard again like Ole Miss.
Posted by LL7
Houston
Member since Mar 2010
3407 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 7:44 am to
It tells me that Aranda has failed at his job. This game is not an anomaly. The defense has played poorly all season. It seems like a combination of things like lack of depth, bad technique, lack of effort, complacency, and players who are too busy reading their own press clippings. Regardless, Aranda needs to fix it or he needs to go.
Posted by doya2
Charenton
Member since Jan 2005
8443 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 7:45 am to
It tells us we need better players
Posted by doctatigah
Member since Oct 2016
1073 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 7:45 am to
Fair enough.
Posted by EXPLAYER
Member since Jul 2017
10791 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 7:46 am to
Tells us that wishbone offenses from back in the 70s run by Texas and Oklahoma would had given us issues.
Posted by RagleyTiger
Ragley
Member since Oct 2014
79 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 7:46 am to
It tells us what we thought all season. Our defense is not very good over all as a unit!
Posted by GeorgePaton
God's Country
Member since May 2017
4988 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 7:51 am to
quote:

What does last night’s D performance tell us?


LSU will not win a NC with a porous defense like that. I can see LSU getting past Ohio State.......but Clemson will clean LSU's plow.

LSU has two more games to get this problem with the defense fixed.

One more thing......how much is LSU paying Aranda?
This post was edited on 11/17/19 at 8:05 am
Posted by tigertex1992
Houston
Member since Apr 2014
1863 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 7:51 am to
More indicators of what we already knew: the defense is bad. It’s been bad all year. 10 games into the season I don’t see that suddenly changing.

We just need to ride this offense for as far as it takes us and remember, regardless of how the rest of the season goes, this has been an incredible year! The future is bright for LSU football!
Posted by EXPLAYER
Member since Jul 2017
10791 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 7:51 am to
Damm our fans wanted more offense ,now we have it. If you don’t think scoring so fast doesn’t hurt defense you are delusional. It gives other teams more possessions . Defense less time on sidelines to rest and make adjustments. Plus Dave has seen a full year to make adjustments now that he has seen the timeline in between possessions. Coaches will also know how to better condition players. And
Posted by TNTigerman
James Island
Member since Sep 2012
11783 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 7:52 am to
Joe Burrow better not get hurt.
Posted by lsuohiofan
Alliance,Ohio
Member since Oct 2011
1571 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 7:53 am to
Our young backups need to step up and fill the holes.
Posted by lsuohiofan
Alliance,Ohio
Member since Oct 2011
1571 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 7:54 am to
Stingley did not get burnt last night.
Posted by Mohican
Member since Nov 2012
6952 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 7:56 am to
Gap integrity, tackling angles in the back 7 and a lack of disruption and push at Dline have been problems all year. It had gotten better until last night when it was apparent we were having a hangover game.

That said, I’m not a big fan of the 3-4 against modern offenses. You have to be able to recruit guys who want to play in it and it is hard to find big, disruptive 2- gap Dlinemen. It puts a lot of pressure on linebackers and safeties to make the play 100% of the time and it tends to have problems with pass rush.

If your linebackers and safeties have gap and tackling problems like ours do you can forget having an elite defense because our Dlinemen are not the ones making the play.
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
21813 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 7:57 am to
There not very good. Not breaking news
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