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re: Your president is ready to send the Marines after the cartels

Posted on 11/5/19 at 4:16 pm to
Posted by DeusVultMachina
Member since Jul 2017
4245 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 4:16 pm to
Wait, so calls for enforcing effective border control is now "invading"?

There is a reason the Left is not taken seriously.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51815 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 4:33 pm to
30 Million of their citizens are in our country without the legal right to be here. That same group removes billions of dollars from our economy and sends to that shite hole.

Drugs that come from Mexico kill 70 THOUSAND of our citizens EVERY year.

That's over 200 911's that happen EVERY YEAR.


You call it what you want but given these FACTS, Bamarep does not give a frick what label they put on it; it just needs to stop.
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49388 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 4:38 pm to
Sending the military into another country is not border control. That's one hell of a spin though
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
35040 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 4:41 pm to
Well, they better make short work of it down there...we're likely going to need those Marines here, about this time next year.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35528 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 6:18 pm to
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There is no way to got o war with the mexican cartell, They have people under the age of 18 working for them as mule, spotters, even killers. Our military only engage 18 and above
It's been a while but I don't remember anything about 'under 18' in the ROE. How would you even determine age in an engagement? Cease fire and ID everyone?
Posted by DeusVultMachina
Member since Jul 2017
4245 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 6:27 pm to
Actually I have called for the establishment of a border zone military district, US-MEX JOINTLY administered. This may come as a shock to you, but no, that is not "invading"



WTF.
This post was edited on 11/5/19 at 6:28 pm
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
12063 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 6:53 pm to
The Cartels killed over thirty thousand Mexicans last year and they are heroes?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73050 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 7:13 pm to
quote:

So we are willing to double down on the War on Drugs? It's unwinnable. This isn't the answer and will only lead to increased strengthening of the cartels.


bamalib and those like him love the War on Drugs. Big federal government takes care of him and he can't get enough of it.
Posted by DeusVultMachina
Member since Jul 2017
4245 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 7:17 pm to
The war on drugs is stupid. Simple border security is not the same thing at all.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73050 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 7:29 pm to
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Simple border security


That isn't what's been discussed here.
Posted by DeusVultMachina
Member since Jul 2017
4245 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 7:38 pm to
Look man, I'm not looking for your usual antics.

I am arguing for a jointly administered military border zone. Which I consider to be the "occam’s razor" of this discussion.

Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73050 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 7:47 pm to
I don't care what you're looking for. I'm here to discuss the OP.

If you want to discuss something else, start your own thread or find someone else.
Posted by DeusVultMachina
Member since Jul 2017
4245 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 8:05 pm to
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That isn't what's been discussed here.



DB. I get it. We can talk my plan in a different thread, should you desire. I like my plan so I would welcome critical discussion.

However, in this thread...

The board may want to know your thoughts on US military border security.

Do you want to give them?
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 8:12 pm to
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The Cartels killed over thirty thousand Mexicans last year


Are you suggesting we should intervene based on a humanitarian crisis?
Posted by DeusVultMachina
Member since Jul 2017
4245 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 8:15 pm to
No way. We should establish a militarized border zone. As dozens of other nations on earth have done.

Solution: meet face.
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49388 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 8:47 pm to
Never said it was invading what I'm saying is we don't need more pointless interventions. You really want to take it to the cartels hit them in their wallets and end the war on drugs

And like others have this isn't about your plan it's about Trump wanting to turn Mexico into a war zone with Americans fighting in it
This post was edited on 11/5/19 at 8:49 pm
Posted by DeusVultMachina
Member since Jul 2017
4245 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 8:48 pm to
I don't want to "take it" anywhere.

I want a secure US-MEX border zone. Jointly patrolled by the militaries of both countries.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 8:55 pm to
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Jointly patrolled by the militaries of both countries.


Why hasn't the Mexican military already taken out the cartel?
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 8:56 pm to
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it's about Trump wanting to turn Mexico into a war zone with Americans fighting in it


Oh Jesus fricking Christ you aren't that fricking stupid.

This is Trump goading the left to shriek so he can contrast their warrior bullshite about Syria not two weeks ago.

He throws out all sorts of shite to get a reaction.

He doesn't want to "turn it into a war zone".
Posted by DeusVultMachina
Member since Jul 2017
4245 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 8:59 pm to
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Why hasn't the Mexican military already taken out the cartel?



You are CORRECT.

But the reality is they need our assistance to purge their ranks of drug cartel corruption.

Seriously look 20 years forward, my solution provides real border stability and without border strongholds, the Cartels weaken... their grip on legitimate Mexican govt weakens drastically.

Stability and prosperity for BOTH nations INCREASES.
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