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Does USC's 2003 AP title carry any legitimacy?
Posted on 10/27/19 at 12:37 am
Posted on 10/27/19 at 12:37 am
I remember some guy on the ESPN forums, LSUoverUSC, who wrote about 2003 and he said USC has no legitimate claim to the 2003 national championship, even though they were awarded the AP title. What do you think?
This post was edited on 10/27/19 at 8:57 am
Posted on 10/27/19 at 12:40 am to TulaneLSU
Hell no! You played for the BCS title, not the AP title. End of story. Because it was USC’s first run at a title since 1985, media ran with it.
Posted on 10/27/19 at 12:41 am to TulaneLSU
LSU has the crystal ball. In the BCS era the crystal ball was/is the National Champion. Now can USC hang a banner for being AP Champions? I guess as a Bama fan it’d be a tad hypocritical if I said no.
Posted on 10/27/19 at 12:43 am to Akit1
quote:
Hell no! You played for the BCS title, not the AP title. End of story. Because it was USC’s first run at a title since 1985, media ran with it.
Posted on 10/27/19 at 12:46 am to TulaneLSU
Iirc USC played 0 ranked teams that year.
They were the champions for pencil neck sports journalists who were afraid of the rough and tumble baws of the south
They were the champions for pencil neck sports journalists who were afraid of the rough and tumble baws of the south
Posted on 10/27/19 at 12:46 am to TulaneLSU
that 2003 LSU defense woulda made bush, white and leinart look like they belonged in the wac.
same defense that shut down adrian peterson, who is twice the rb of bush and white put together.
edit: forgot peterson was a year later.
same defense that shut down adrian peterson, who is twice the rb of bush and white put together.
edit: forgot peterson was a year later.
This post was edited on 10/27/19 at 11:33 am
Posted on 10/27/19 at 12:49 am to RightHook
Adrian Peterson was in high school in 2003.
Posted on 10/27/19 at 12:49 am to MF Doom
quote:a wazzu and michigan team who both finished in the top 10
Iirc USC played 0 ranked teams that year.
Posted on 10/27/19 at 12:54 am to TulaneLSU
ah right. i always get that mixed up. ou just had a great offense that year. didnt even get 200 yards of offense against LSU.
shoulda been sc and LSU in the national title game. ou got blown out by kstate in the b12 championship.
shoulda been sc and LSU in the national title game. ou got blown out by kstate in the b12 championship.
Posted on 10/27/19 at 12:56 am to WestCoastAg
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a wazzu and michigan team who both finished in the top 10
Right. My bad it was one regular season ranked win
Posted on 10/27/19 at 1:01 am to WestCoastAg
Also had the better SOS. BCS did it’s job and minimized the human bias.
USC- 2003 national champions of faggy biased sports journalists
LSU - 2003 national champions of unbiased smart arse nerds and computers
USC- 2003 national champions of faggy biased sports journalists
LSU - 2003 national champions of unbiased smart arse nerds and computers
This post was edited on 10/27/19 at 1:02 am
Posted on 10/27/19 at 1:01 am to WestCoastAg
Three, UGA x2 and OU. Each of those wins was more impressive than wins against Mich 10-3 and Wazzou 10-3.
Posted on 10/27/19 at 1:02 am to MF Doom
I still consider USC the champs from that year.
They beat Michigan in the bowl game and Oklahoma got f-ing smoked by Sproles and K-State in the Big 12 title game. Everyone knew USC was better than LSU that year. They just got fricked by the bcs. Oklahoma should have never been in that title game.
They beat Michigan in the bowl game and Oklahoma got f-ing smoked by Sproles and K-State in the Big 12 title game. Everyone knew USC was better than LSU that year. They just got fricked by the bcs. Oklahoma should have never been in that title game.
Posted on 10/27/19 at 1:32 am to bamagreycoat
The AP awards a trophy, too. LSU has the AP trophy for 2007.
The split title in 2003 was actually a good thing, as it eventually led to a playoff.
The split title in 2003 was actually a good thing, as it eventually led to a playoff.
Posted on 10/27/19 at 1:39 am to TulaneLSU
I saw the BCS title game on TV. Southern Cal wasn't in it.
Posted on 10/27/19 at 1:53 am to TulaneLSU
More than LSU's 2007 title
Posted on 10/27/19 at 1:55 am to FightinTigersDammit
BCS and AP were separate titles. USC won the AP title.
It was a good thing for college football, big picture.
It was a good thing for college football, big picture.
Posted on 10/27/19 at 1:59 am to TulaneLSU
What year is it?
Does Alabama's 1973 and 1978 National Titles carry legitimacy?
They lost to both National Champions yet proudly proclaim it.
I don't remember USC losing to LSU that year like Bama lost to Notre Dame and USC respectively.
But still claim the title.
We were still in the "after the bowls voting age" in 2003 and a vote is a vote.
AP is the longest title awarding institution in history , since 1936.
Every school and fanboy on here claims AP titles.
BCS was a newborn.
Based on computers.
There has never been a #1 team in both polls heading into the bowl games that won their game and wasn't unanimously viewed as the National Champion.
People hated the BCS then, thought it was made up computer phony nonsense and that's why we moved quickly away from it.
BCS didn't gain credibility.
The better question for OP is does the BCS title era still carry legitimacy in what a farce it was and how people hated it. Made up math algorithms that can spout out whatever you put into it...widely varying computer models from 6 different computer generating sites.
It's like, what's going on here? What happened to people who watch the games?
AP had an independent vote as they have since 1936 - and which 90% of National Championships are claimed from throughout history.
I think it's pretty retarded to say a team that was #1 in both polls before the bowl games - by a large margin - title is not legitimate under a computer system that got SHUDDERED the next year as being ridiculous - they totally neutered the power of the computers which nobody understood and were not vetted and were in secret.
Computers remained but they lost their almighty vote and their formulas had to be made public. Early BCS was clown football and just making up this new system as they went along.
USC's title has the weight of 60 years of history.
The BCS title in 2003 had the weight of 5 years of history.
You tell me what's more legitimate? Not LSU's fault, the system was just a retarded newborn infant that sucked and it's why we abandoned it as quickly as possible and people won't care or maybe even remember the horrible BCS era.
Does Alabama's 1973 and 1978 National Titles carry legitimacy?
They lost to both National Champions yet proudly proclaim it.
I don't remember USC losing to LSU that year like Bama lost to Notre Dame and USC respectively.
But still claim the title.
We were still in the "after the bowls voting age" in 2003 and a vote is a vote.
AP is the longest title awarding institution in history , since 1936.
Every school and fanboy on here claims AP titles.
BCS was a newborn.
Based on computers.
There has never been a #1 team in both polls heading into the bowl games that won their game and wasn't unanimously viewed as the National Champion.
People hated the BCS then, thought it was made up computer phony nonsense and that's why we moved quickly away from it.
BCS didn't gain credibility.
The better question for OP is does the BCS title era still carry legitimacy in what a farce it was and how people hated it. Made up math algorithms that can spout out whatever you put into it...widely varying computer models from 6 different computer generating sites.
It's like, what's going on here? What happened to people who watch the games?
AP had an independent vote as they have since 1936 - and which 90% of National Championships are claimed from throughout history.
I think it's pretty retarded to say a team that was #1 in both polls before the bowl games - by a large margin - title is not legitimate under a computer system that got SHUDDERED the next year as being ridiculous - they totally neutered the power of the computers which nobody understood and were not vetted and were in secret.
Computers remained but they lost their almighty vote and their formulas had to be made public. Early BCS was clown football and just making up this new system as they went along.
USC's title has the weight of 60 years of history.
The BCS title in 2003 had the weight of 5 years of history.
You tell me what's more legitimate? Not LSU's fault, the system was just a retarded newborn infant that sucked and it's why we abandoned it as quickly as possible and people won't care or maybe even remember the horrible BCS era.
This post was edited on 10/27/19 at 2:02 am
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