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re: What would have to come out for you to say Trump had committed an impeachable offense?
Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:56 pm to Taxing Authority
Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:56 pm to Taxing Authority
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We KNOW he’s violated the Emoluments Clause
Excuse me... it's the, Omelettes Clause.
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Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:57 pm to Tani
Please be specific. WE know no such thing. But we would enjoy hearing your specific claim. So let's hear it.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:57 pm to SelaTiger
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I would have to actually see the Red Army coming down the street.
So until then, when it’s too late, we do nothing?
Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:58 pm to DeathAndTaxes
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What would have to come out in regards to the situation with Ukraine for you to say an impeachment proceeding is warranted? And what evidence would you need to see?
Honestly, nothing.
Everything being alleged looks to be incorrect, but even if it were true, it's not an impeachable offense.
For me to support impeachment, he'd have to be selling secrets or something of that nature.
This post was edited on 10/22/19 at 11:00 pm
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:01 pm to Bass Tiger
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bragging about getting a Ukrainian AG fired by threatening to withhold US aid money
Biden stood with Congress, our allies, the International Monetary Fund, the Ukrainian Parliament, and Ukrainian anti-corruption activists in demanding that Shokin be removed. He didn’t do it for his own campaign like Trump did.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:02 pm to Diamondawg
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Sell our Uranium??
Nobody has sold our uranium. It can’t be done. Uranium can’t leave the United States except under very specific circumstances, in very small amounts, in very closely watched situations. If you believe that Hillary Clinton ever sold any of our uranium, you’re admitting that you’re clueless.
This post was edited on 10/22/19 at 11:04 pm
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:02 pm to Tani
Damn shame we're letting the ShareBlue trolls survive.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:03 pm to Tani
You and the mouse in your pocket named "WE" popped off so quit running and layout your "High Crimes" here.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:05 pm to Tani
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He didn’t do it for his own campaign like Trump did.
I get that you'd simply like this to be assumed, but knowing that the law doesn't favor assumptions and presumptions (of guilt) without supporting evidence.....what do you possibly envision could or would be the evidence supporting this - that Trump did it for personal gain i.e. his campaign??
This post was edited on 10/22/19 at 11:09 pm
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:06 pm to Jbird
I have asked this a thousand times but I’ve NEVER gotten an actual answer. What did Hillary do or fail to do that you believe caused the deaths in Benghazi/
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:15 pm to Tani
quote:You've got like 20 posts...………..alter
I have asked this a thousand times but I’ve NEVER gotten an actual answer. What did Hillary do or fail to do that you believe caused the deaths in Benghazi/
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:15 pm to TidenUP
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So, when Biden bragged about withholding funds to Ukraine unless they fired the prosecutor who was investigating his son, it didn't trigger you. Trump asks them to finish the investigation on corruption(it's cute that you refer to it as "political opponents" BTW), it's suddenly an abuse of power?
When Biden demanded the removal of Shokin, he was standing with Congress, our allies, the Ukrainian Parliament, the IMF, and Ukrainian anti-corruption activists. They were trying to help Ukraine remove a corrupt official.
When Trump said, “I would like you to do us a favor though,” he was asking for something to help his own campaign, which is in itself a violation of the law. There was no investigation or any kind of legal action going on against Hunter Biden. Trump has lied about that all along.
US Code Title 52:
§30121. Contributions and donations by foreign nationals
(a) Prohibition
It shall be unlawful for-
(1) a foreign national, directly or indirectly, to make-
(A) a contribution or donation of money or other thing of value, or to make an express or implied promise to make a contribution or donation, in connection with a Federal, State, or local election;
(B) a contribution or donation to a committee of a political party; or
(C) an expenditure, independent expenditure, or disbursement for an electioneering communication (within the meaning of section 30104(f)(3) of this title); or
(2) a person to *****solicit*****, accept, or receive a contribution or donation described in subparagraph (A) or (B) of paragraph (1) from a foreign national.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:18 pm to Tani
quote:Well then, this next election is gonna require a LOT of new faces because the Dem party just OVERTLY did exactly that for 4 straight years.
When Trump said, “I would like you to do us a favor though,” he was asking for something to help his own campaign, which is in itself a violation of the law.
quote:LOL
US Code Title 52:
That stupidity again
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:20 pm to Tani
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Biden stood with Congress, our allies, the International Monetary Fund, the Ukrainian Parliament, and Ukrainian anti-corruption activists in demanding that Shokin be removed.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:20 pm to Tani
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When Biden demanded the removal of Shokin, he was standing with Congress, our allies, the Ukrainian Parliament, the IMF, and Ukrainian anti-corruption activists. They were trying to help Ukraine remove a corrupt official.
That's a lot of very important people and entities. I'm still not exactly sure of any specific allegation of corruption against Shokin. Can you cite anything right off hand?
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:24 pm to PhDoogan
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So the wise founders thought that the Fifth Amendment should give every person the presumption of innocence except in the case of impeachment which applies to treason, bribery or high crimes and misdemeanors (and the FF were not talking jaywalking, Francis)
The Fifth Amendment applies to a person being brought up on charges in a court of law. It does not apply to investigations. When the police are investigating you for a burglary, for example, they are NOT assuming that you are innocent. In an impeachment, that means that the assumption of innocence applies when it goes to trial in the Senate, NOT while it’s being investigated in the House.
If you want to treat this as any other legal case, plenty of the Republicans in the Senate would have to be excused. The Sixth Amendment secures an IMPARTIAL jury, and plenty of senators have already said that they would not vote to convict.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:26 pm to DyeHardDylan
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When there is evidence that Trump committed a crime.
So now, then. The evidence is there. It’s just that people of the far right are refusing to see it.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:27 pm to Tani
Yet you wont name it. Evidence of expectation of personal gain i.e. Trump campaign.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:30 pm to Tani
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So now, then. The evidence is there
Nope
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:32 pm to PhDoogan
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This was a hearsay, pre-prepared statement coordinated with highly partisan actor
Hearsay is not disallowed in an investigation. If you hear someone talking about committing a crime, or even that they HEARD of someone talking about it, and you report it, the police follow up on that. They don’t say, “Oh, this isn’t first hand information, so there’s no reason to see if there’s anything to it.”
The summary of the call proves that the whistleblower was right.
Be smarter? You might want to try to take your own advice.
This post was edited on 10/22/19 at 11:33 pm
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