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USMNT “On the Record” Thread
Posted on 10/17/19 at 11:30 am
Posted on 10/17/19 at 11:30 am
Your answers will be recorded here for the all-knowing SB to witness and refer to at any point in the future. Proceed with caution in regards to your future arguments...
1). Do you want GB fired right now?
2). How much more time do you give him?
3). In your eyes, is the problem more about player pool, the coach, or the USSF?
4). Honest opinion on who you’d replace GB with should he be fired?
5). What is your best eleven and next six from our current player pool?
6). Should we abandon veteran players at this point and simply build for our future?
1). Do you want GB fired right now?
2). How much more time do you give him?
3). In your eyes, is the problem more about player pool, the coach, or the USSF?
4). Honest opinion on who you’d replace GB with should he be fired?
5). What is your best eleven and next six from our current player pool?
6). Should we abandon veteran players at this point and simply build for our future?
This post was edited on 10/17/19 at 11:50 am
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Posted on 10/17/19 at 11:41 am to DByrd2
they can't compete with the other top tier teams in North America. especially Mexico
Posted on 10/17/19 at 11:57 am to DByrd2
quote:
1). Do you want GB fired right now?
Yes
quote:
2). How much more time do you give him?
0
quote:
3). In your eyes, is the problem more about player pool, the coach, or the USSF?
The USSF, then coaching
quote:
4). Honest opinion on who you’d replace GB with should he be fired?
Jesse Marsch
quote:
5). What is your best eleven and next six from our current player pool?
That takes time.
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6). Should we abandon veteran players at this point and simply build for our future?
You can't do this. There needs to be veterans on national team's to bridge the gap. Look at 2014, Jurgen tried to go youth heavy to give guys who thought would be foundational pieces an early start. Julian Green hasn't amounted to much, same goes with Timmy Chandler and Aron Johannsson is always hurt.
You take your best 23 regardless of age. Players shouldn't be rewarded just because they are 22 instead of 32.
Posted on 10/17/19 at 12:07 pm to Broski
What sense does it make to not play Michael Bradley until Adams is healthy, when the alternative is Will Trapp? Give me Bradley.
Also, Jozy is still our best striker option and, when healthy, I would like our chances with him on the field right now over some one that's younger.
It sucks that our talent development in those areas has been so stagnant, but playing young guys for the sake of playing young guys isn't the answer. The young guys have to push the veterans out. It was the lone philosophy that Jurgen talked about that I liked, I just wish he had actually practiced it.
Also, Jozy is still our best striker option and, when healthy, I would like our chances with him on the field right now over some one that's younger.
It sucks that our talent development in those areas has been so stagnant, but playing young guys for the sake of playing young guys isn't the answer. The young guys have to push the veterans out. It was the lone philosophy that Jurgen talked about that I liked, I just wish he had actually practiced it.
Posted on 10/17/19 at 12:07 pm to DByrd2
1). Do you want GB fired right now?
Yes.
2). How much more time do you give him?
None.
3). In your eyes, is the problem more about player pool, the coach, or the USSF?
USSF and Coach. They hired him and "him" is struggling to badly.
4). Honest opinion on who you’d replace GB with should he be fired?
David Wagner
5). What is your best eleven and next six from our current player pool?
6). Should we abandon veteran players at this point and simply build for our future?
Abandon Bradley
Yes.
2). How much more time do you give him?
None.
3). In your eyes, is the problem more about player pool, the coach, or the USSF?
USSF and Coach. They hired him and "him" is struggling to badly.
4). Honest opinion on who you’d replace GB with should he be fired?
David Wagner
5). What is your best eleven and next six from our current player pool?
6). Should we abandon veteran players at this point and simply build for our future?
Abandon Bradley
Posted on 10/17/19 at 12:11 pm to Shane4689
quote:
Abandon Bradley
You giving his minutes to Will Trapp?
Posted on 10/17/19 at 12:16 pm to DByrd2
1). Do you want GB fired right now? YES
2). How much more time do you give him? He should have been fired Wednesday morning
3). In your eyes, is the problem more about player pool, the coach, or the USSF? All of the above. Players need to be better, which starts with USSF setting up a youth system to produce better players. The current issue, and really steming back to Jurgen, is coaches not putting the current players in positions to be successful (ie Tyler Adams as a fricking right back)
4). Honest opinion on who you’d replace GB with should he be fired? I don't know who, but someone that can take the potential influx of young talent we currently have and tailor a system around it, not try to fit it into a system they want. And someone who stops acting as if success in MLS means shite on the international stage.
5). What is your best eleven and next six from our current player pool?
Steffen/Yedlin-Brooks-Miazga-Robinson/Adams-Weston-Pulisic-Weah/Altidore-Sargent. Horvath, Long, Boyd, Morris, Arriola, Dest.
6). Should we abandon veteran players at this point and simply build for our future? Yes. Healthy, young players should get priority over Zardes, Trapp, and Bradley. Vets like Bradley and Guzan are good to bring into camps for leadership, but they shouldn't be getting much PT.
2). How much more time do you give him? He should have been fired Wednesday morning
3). In your eyes, is the problem more about player pool, the coach, or the USSF? All of the above. Players need to be better, which starts with USSF setting up a youth system to produce better players. The current issue, and really steming back to Jurgen, is coaches not putting the current players in positions to be successful (ie Tyler Adams as a fricking right back)
4). Honest opinion on who you’d replace GB with should he be fired? I don't know who, but someone that can take the potential influx of young talent we currently have and tailor a system around it, not try to fit it into a system they want. And someone who stops acting as if success in MLS means shite on the international stage.
5). What is your best eleven and next six from our current player pool?
Steffen/Yedlin-Brooks-Miazga-Robinson/Adams-Weston-Pulisic-Weah/Altidore-Sargent. Horvath, Long, Boyd, Morris, Arriola, Dest.
6). Should we abandon veteran players at this point and simply build for our future? Yes. Healthy, young players should get priority over Zardes, Trapp, and Bradley. Vets like Bradley and Guzan are good to bring into camps for leadership, but they shouldn't be getting much PT.
Posted on 10/17/19 at 12:21 pm to lionward2014
quote:
Bradley
So who is getting those minutes?
Posted on 10/17/19 at 12:21 pm to DByrd2
1.) 100%
2.) I'll give him the next two games to change my mind - but there really isn't much he could do.
3.) Combination of all, but you can only do so much to change the immediate playing pool. Having a coach and federation utilize it better is something that can be controlled.
Not sure on 4 right now, and 5 is a lengthier discussion that likely depends upon the system employed by the next coach.
6.) Any veteran who is not 100% about effort, team unity and promoting of the ethos the new coach/system wants should be gone for good. If they aren't contributing to the culture for the young guys, there is no reason they should be around.
2.) I'll give him the next two games to change my mind - but there really isn't much he could do.
3.) Combination of all, but you can only do so much to change the immediate playing pool. Having a coach and federation utilize it better is something that can be controlled.
Not sure on 4 right now, and 5 is a lengthier discussion that likely depends upon the system employed by the next coach.
6.) Any veteran who is not 100% about effort, team unity and promoting of the ethos the new coach/system wants should be gone for good. If they aren't contributing to the culture for the young guys, there is no reason they should be around.
Posted on 10/17/19 at 12:27 pm to lionward2014
1). Do you want GB fired right now?
Yes
2). How much more time do you give him? The matches in November is the absolute latest I would give him.
3). In your eyes, is the problem more about player pool, the coach, or the USSF?
More so I think it's USSF at this point. The front office needs a shakeup.
4). Honest opinion on who you’d replace GB with should he be fired?
People want Marsch but there's no way he's leaving in the position he is in now. He could be coaching in a top 4 league within two or three years. For now I think Tab would be a good choice and he's already familiar with a lot of the guys in this player pool
5). What is your best eleven and next six from our current player pool?
I've seen good options from other posters here.
6). Should we abandon veteran players at this point and simply build for our future?
I would say yes from starting roles unless we absolute need them.
Yes
2). How much more time do you give him? The matches in November is the absolute latest I would give him.
3). In your eyes, is the problem more about player pool, the coach, or the USSF?
More so I think it's USSF at this point. The front office needs a shakeup.
4). Honest opinion on who you’d replace GB with should he be fired?
People want Marsch but there's no way he's leaving in the position he is in now. He could be coaching in a top 4 league within two or three years. For now I think Tab would be a good choice and he's already familiar with a lot of the guys in this player pool
5). What is your best eleven and next six from our current player pool?
I've seen good options from other posters here.
6). Should we abandon veteran players at this point and simply build for our future?
I would say yes from starting roles unless we absolute need them.
Posted on 10/17/19 at 12:33 pm to DByrd2
1). Do you want GB fired right now? Yes
2). How much more time do you give him? The sooner the better. Nee to show the players people still care about this team
3). In your eyes, is the problem more about player pool, the coach, or the USSF? Varying degrees of all but in reverse order in terms of spreading blame (USSF, coach, players)
4). Honest opinion on who you’d replace GB with should he be fired? Peter Vermes
5). What is your best eleven and next six from our current player pool? If the system changes with a new management then the players may change. I am taking the cop out avenue on this one... for now
6). Should we abandon veteran players at this point and simply build for our future? Nope. Need them around to set an example
2). How much more time do you give him? The sooner the better. Nee to show the players people still care about this team
3). In your eyes, is the problem more about player pool, the coach, or the USSF? Varying degrees of all but in reverse order in terms of spreading blame (USSF, coach, players)
4). Honest opinion on who you’d replace GB with should he be fired? Peter Vermes
5). What is your best eleven and next six from our current player pool? If the system changes with a new management then the players may change. I am taking the cop out avenue on this one... for now
6). Should we abandon veteran players at this point and simply build for our future? Nope. Need them around to set an example
Posted on 10/17/19 at 12:40 pm to Broski
quote:
So who is getting those minutes?
I read your other posts in this thread, and I agree with you that until a healthy Adams is back he should be playing. I answered assuming it was a perfect world and everyone is healthy. Bradley>>>>Trapp, Roldan, any other 6 we have right now. Not sure if Holmes plays there or higher up the pitch, but he would be the only one I would want to see get some PT with Adams out.
This post was edited on 10/17/19 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 10/17/19 at 12:42 pm to DByrd2
1). Do you want GB fired right now? Yes
2). How much more time do you give him? Enough to pack his bags
3). In your eyes, is the problem more about player pool, the coach, or the USSF? In order, 1) coach, 1a) USSF, and then player pool.
4). Honest opinion on who you’d replace GB with should he be fired? I dont know enough but the available options, but it is clear the status quo must go
5). What is your best eleven and next six from our current player pool? Steffen, Dest, Brooks, CCV, Yedlin, Adams, McKennie, Pulisic, Weah, Llegget, Altidore
6). Should we abandon veteran players at this point and simply build for our future? Not necessarily but I think outside Altidore the week a year he is healthy, the youth is where our strength is.
2). How much more time do you give him? Enough to pack his bags
3). In your eyes, is the problem more about player pool, the coach, or the USSF? In order, 1) coach, 1a) USSF, and then player pool.
4). Honest opinion on who you’d replace GB with should he be fired? I dont know enough but the available options, but it is clear the status quo must go
5). What is your best eleven and next six from our current player pool? Steffen, Dest, Brooks, CCV, Yedlin, Adams, McKennie, Pulisic, Weah, Llegget, Altidore
6). Should we abandon veteran players at this point and simply build for our future? Not necessarily but I think outside Altidore the week a year he is healthy, the youth is where our strength is.
This post was edited on 10/17/19 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 10/17/19 at 3:44 pm to DByrd2
1). Do you want GB fired right now?
Yes
2). How much more time do you give him?
None
3). In your eyes, is the problem more about player pool, the coach, or the USSF?
Starts at the top
4). Honest opinion on who you’d replace GB with should he be fired?
David Wagner
5). What is your best eleven and next six from our current player pool?
I'm going to project towards 2022 here
Steffen
Dest, Brooks, CCV, Yedlin
Adams, Mckennie, Reyna
Pulisic, Sargent, Weah
Richards, Mendez, Miazga, Horvath, Gloster, Pomykal
6). Should we abandon veteran players at this point and simply build for our future?
Absofrickinglutely. The current "veterans" were basically part of the lost generation anyway. Outside of Altidore none of them have any talent
Yes
2). How much more time do you give him?
None
3). In your eyes, is the problem more about player pool, the coach, or the USSF?
Starts at the top
4). Honest opinion on who you’d replace GB with should he be fired?
David Wagner
5). What is your best eleven and next six from our current player pool?
I'm going to project towards 2022 here
Steffen
Dest, Brooks, CCV, Yedlin
Adams, Mckennie, Reyna
Pulisic, Sargent, Weah
Richards, Mendez, Miazga, Horvath, Gloster, Pomykal
6). Should we abandon veteran players at this point and simply build for our future?
Absofrickinglutely. The current "veterans" were basically part of the lost generation anyway. Outside of Altidore none of them have any talent
Posted on 10/17/19 at 4:11 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
quote:
Dest, Brooks, CCV, Yedlin Adams, Mckennie, Reyna Pulisic, Sargent, Weah Richards, Mendez, Miazga, Horvath, Gloster, Pomykal
Not enough MLS representation.
Posted on 10/17/19 at 4:58 pm to lionward2014
Has Baton Rouge's favorite son CCV been getting playing time this year?
ETA: Just looked it up, he's gone the full 90 in Stoke's last 5 matches.
ETA: Just looked it up, he's gone the full 90 in Stoke's last 5 matches.
This post was edited on 10/17/19 at 5:00 pm
Posted on 10/17/19 at 5:05 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
quote:
Reyna
Lets let him actually get first team minutes before we start capping him.
This is part of the problem, fans just want the new young guy to feature right away. They have to earn their caps.
Posted on 10/17/19 at 5:26 pm to Broski
Our fans are so desperate for improvement that we grossly overestimated the capabilities of our prospects.
Posted on 10/17/19 at 6:33 pm to DByrd2
1) Yes
2) If we don’t make it out Nations League gone the next day, If we play Mexico in the final and we don’t win or look damn unlucky
3) coach and USSF, look at other rosters in CONCACAF we should be significantly better
4) JESSE MARSCH (I know...), I don’t have any specific names but we need a coach that can get the most out of the players he has (coach in Europe that is on a budget but gets results Ex : Poch but obv someone we would actually get)
5) Steffen
Cannon Miazga Brooks Ream
Adams Pulisic McKennie
Arriola Altidore Morris
Next 6: Holmes, Sargent, Long, Bradley, Boyd, Yedlin
Weah is good in my mind but he’s gotta break through at Lille
6) Build for 2022 we will need veterans for a World Cup but I am sick of Trapp (26) being treated by Gregg as if he is a prospect dude should be in his prime almost
2) If we don’t make it out Nations League gone the next day, If we play Mexico in the final and we don’t win or look damn unlucky
3) coach and USSF, look at other rosters in CONCACAF we should be significantly better
4) JESSE MARSCH (I know...), I don’t have any specific names but we need a coach that can get the most out of the players he has (coach in Europe that is on a budget but gets results Ex : Poch but obv someone we would actually get)
5) Steffen
Cannon Miazga Brooks Ream
Adams Pulisic McKennie
Arriola Altidore Morris
Next 6: Holmes, Sargent, Long, Bradley, Boyd, Yedlin
Weah is good in my mind but he’s gotta break through at Lille
6) Build for 2022 we will need veterans for a World Cup but I am sick of Trapp (26) being treated by Gregg as if he is a prospect dude should be in his prime almost
This post was edited on 10/17/19 at 6:35 pm
Posted on 10/17/19 at 7:24 pm to LAcajun2
Steffen
Yedlin-Long-Brooks-Dest
Adams-Mckennie
Lletget
Pulisic-Altidore-Weah
If I had to take 23 right now:
Yedlin-Long-Brooks-Dest
Adams-Mckennie
Lletget
Pulisic-Altidore-Weah
If I had to take 23 right now:
This post was edited on 10/17/19 at 7:34 pm
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