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Bill Barr makes the Intellectual Case Against secularism
Posted on 10/12/19 at 10:30 am
Posted on 10/12/19 at 10:30 am
Seriously y’all if you want government out of your life (as I do), there’s no substitute for spirituality. As my sexy unsexy old boyfriend puts it:
I love him. Dude is smart AF.
Barr video on Twitter
quote:
Attorney General Bill Barr: "This is not decay. This is organized destruction. Secularists and their allies have marshaled all the forces of mass communication, popular culture, the entertainment industry, and academia in an unremitting assault on religion & traditional values."
I love him. Dude is smart AF.
Barr video on Twitter
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Posted on 10/12/19 at 10:45 am to Wednesday
Here’s a post from a PT Prog/Dim leftist that not only admits they own pop culture/Hollywood, academia and the MSM but brags about it. These fricks use to call us paranoid for making that claim but now they brag about it.
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osted by FightnBobLafollette on 10/11/19 at 9:48 pm to JFKJunior quote: you keep on underestimating us.
Why wouldn’t i? You haven’t done anything.
We got abortion.
We got the schools.
We got the media.
We got Hollywood.
We got culture.
But now you suddenly you are gonna do something.
Lol quote: will be your downfall, Roberta. The feminization of my avatar has me shaking. I literally cowering in fear.
Posted on 10/12/19 at 10:58 am to Bass Tiger
Getting them to admit it is all too easy these days.
Posted on 10/12/19 at 11:08 am to JFKJunior
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Getting them to admit it is all too easy these days.
Yeah - it is obvious they are revealing in their advantage.
Posted on 10/12/19 at 11:10 am to Wednesday
He's right. Secularists have no basis for objective truth, and without objective truth, everyone can be legitimately right in their own eyes.
Posted on 10/12/19 at 11:16 am to FooManChoo
Secularists have only materialism to live for. Theres no such thing as a spirit, character is meaningless if you havent accomplished material gain in atheist/secular views. Life is about money and power, everything else is a "social construct".
Sacrifice means nothing, helping poor people means nothing unless it helps you gain material advantages (i.e. recognition from the media).
Sacrifice means nothing, helping poor people means nothing unless it helps you gain material advantages (i.e. recognition from the media).
Posted on 10/12/19 at 11:18 am to FooManChoo
How is religion a basis for objective truth?
Posted on 10/12/19 at 11:21 am to tiggerthetooth
Nonsense. Communities were built on reciprocal altruism before your religion existed.
Posted on 10/12/19 at 11:21 am to MetArl15
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How is religion a basis for objective truth?
Religion has given us a system of morality that made the US what it is today as the freest nation on earth. It's a proven system of morality worlds over in terms of building an effective society.
What is the alternative at this point? Who decides what's moral or not?
Posted on 10/12/19 at 11:22 am to MetArl15
quote:Religion doesn't. the Biblical God alone is the source of objective truth. We can know the truth because He has revealed it. Only the Biblical God provides the preconditions for intelligibility within the universe. Without Him, we have no basis for reason, morality, human dignity and value, or even the uniformity within nature that makes things like science, math, and language possible.
How is religion a basis for objective truth?
Posted on 10/12/19 at 11:22 am to MetArl15
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How is religion a basis for objective truth?
Only his religion is. The other religions are just wrong due to the self-evident truth of the bible, obviously.
Posted on 10/12/19 at 11:22 am to tiggerthetooth
How is morality objective?
Posted on 10/12/19 at 11:23 am to rbWarEagle
quote:Reciprocal altruism is a philosophy built on pragmatism. Pragmatism doesn't provide a very good basis for morality.
Nonsense. Communities were built on reciprocal altruism before your religion existed.
Posted on 10/12/19 at 11:24 am to MetArl15
quote:Morality can only be objective if it is based on something outside of human experience, like God's character.
How is morality objective?
Posted on 10/12/19 at 11:26 am to FooManChoo
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Reciprocal altruism is a philosophy built on pragmatism. Pragmatism doesn't provide a very good basis for morality.
Why not?
Posted on 10/12/19 at 11:26 am to rbWarEagle
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Only his religion is. The other religions are just wrong due to the self-evident truth of the bible, obviously.
Interesting that other religions have similar morals to the bible. They have many similarities.
Posted on 10/12/19 at 11:27 am to MetArl15
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How is morality objective?
What's your subjective definition of objective? Without any belief in non-physical then only the physical would be your objective reality, i.e. laws of physics, thermodynamics, etc. Right?
Posted on 10/12/19 at 11:29 am to rbWarEagle
quote:Pragmatism is merely doing "what works". Well, what works for individuals and even for society as a whole doesn't necessarily jibe with what we know to be morally right. The eradication of the Jewish plague was a pragmatic response to the plight of the German people as communicated by Hitler and his regime, and the German people bought into it. That "worked" for that nation at that time but it was obviously objectively immoral.
Why not?
Posted on 10/12/19 at 11:31 am to rbWarEagle
What exactly do you propose to fill the spiritual gap when government isn’t there to tell us what to do?
Spirituality is what birthed altruism, not the other way around.
Organized religion is terrible. I have a humongous problem with it. But spirituality is a basic human need, and basic human good. Judeo/Christian ethos are the building blocks without which we can’t function.
When I say Judeo/Christian ethos, I don’t mean dogmatic rules about sex or drinking or diet, or whatever. Pray how you wanna pray. Believe in God in the strict sense or not. Smoke pot. Dance. Have sex out of wedlock. I don’t care.
We all have a different relationship with a higher power, whether you see yourself as a traditional believer or not. When I say spirituality, and when Barr says it, we both mean the bigger picture of a sense of right and wrong and honesty, that can’t be instilled by any force of government. It’s truly what is divine among us: and whether you’re Catholic, Baptist, Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist or agnostic, it exists.
Spirituality is what birthed altruism, not the other way around.
Organized religion is terrible. I have a humongous problem with it. But spirituality is a basic human need, and basic human good. Judeo/Christian ethos are the building blocks without which we can’t function.
When I say Judeo/Christian ethos, I don’t mean dogmatic rules about sex or drinking or diet, or whatever. Pray how you wanna pray. Believe in God in the strict sense or not. Smoke pot. Dance. Have sex out of wedlock. I don’t care.
We all have a different relationship with a higher power, whether you see yourself as a traditional believer or not. When I say spirituality, and when Barr says it, we both mean the bigger picture of a sense of right and wrong and honesty, that can’t be instilled by any force of government. It’s truly what is divine among us: and whether you’re Catholic, Baptist, Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist or agnostic, it exists.
Posted on 10/12/19 at 11:32 am to FooManChoo
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Pragmatism is merely doing "what works". Well, what works for individuals and even for society as a whole doesn't necessarily jibe with what we know to be morally right. The eradication of the Jewish plague was a pragmatic response to the plight of the German people as communicated by Hitler and his regime, and the German people bought into it. That "worked" for that nation at that time but it was obviously objectively immoral.
That's hardly a fair characterization of pragmatism, for one. We're talking about pragmatism on an evolutionary scale.
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