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re: Judge Tigar defies federal appeals court, reinstates injunction against asylum ban
Posted on 9/9/19 at 6:51 pm to AggieHank86
Posted on 9/9/19 at 6:51 pm to AggieHank86
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Neither CWill nor I has said that we agree with this ruling
The ruling should be summarily ignored and if he persists he should be arrested
Posted on 9/9/19 at 6:52 pm to AggieHank86
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as usual, you have completely failed to understand anything that is posted by people that you’ve already decided you don’t like. Neither CWill nor I has said that we agree with this ruling. All we have done is correct erroneous interpretations of what it does and why.
I read it and understand it’s complete legal tripe and bullshite, there’s nothing nuanced about it LiberalHank
Posted on 9/9/19 at 6:53 pm to ShortyRob
quote:Every appellate ruling resulting from lack of evidence in District court on a preliminary/temporary injunction, in which the District court subsequently heard additional evidence?
Using this approach EVERY ruling ever could be overturned
Yes, you are correct. That is how preliminary rulings WORK.
Posted on 9/9/19 at 6:58 pm to AggieHank86
The way to go with this is to specifically target the plaintiffs illegals for federal detention and deportation.
Posted on 9/9/19 at 6:59 pm to AggieHank86
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Every appellate ruling resulting from lack of evidence
Lie
Posted on 9/9/19 at 7:00 pm to AggieHank86
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Every appellate ruling resulting from lack of evidence in District court on a preliminary/temporary injunction, in which the District court subsequently heard additional evidence?
Yes, you are correct. That is how preliminary rulings WORK.
Absurdity on its face
Posted on 9/9/19 at 7:00 pm to Strannix
How can he do this? Just ignore him.
Posted on 9/9/19 at 7:07 pm to ShortyRob
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The ruling should be summarily ignored and if he persists he should be arrested
At one time time your histrionics would have surprised.
Posted on 9/9/19 at 7:09 pm to cwill
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At one time time your histrionics would have surprised.
Meh
Judges are completely out of control and have rendered our legal system meaningless
Posted on 9/9/19 at 7:09 pm to cwill
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At one time time your histrionics would have surprised
Hell
It's barely even accurate to refer to these people at judges anymore.
Posted on 9/9/19 at 7:16 pm to Strannix
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So what “new evidence” was presented? The appeals court already made the decision, why wasn’t this evidence part of the original suit?
What do you perceive there decision to have been? See my first post, this was not a straight rejection. The plaintiffs acted as any would and followed the circuit direction to provide supplemental evidence. Now the appeals process starts anew. If you do the minimum research beyond the facile article you posted you could find this yourself.
Posted on 9/9/19 at 7:18 pm to ShortyRob
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Judges are completely out of control and have rendered our legal system meaningless
Appeal to the SCt, which the gov will do...its stacked in their favor (or not).
Posted on 9/9/19 at 7:19 pm to ShortyRob
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It's barely even accurate to refer to these people at judges anymore.
They’re politicians who happen to wear robes.
Posted on 9/9/19 at 7:19 pm to cwill
The simple fact is none of these people are “refugees” seeking asylum, they’re economic migrants who want free stuff, it’s that simple
Posted on 9/9/19 at 7:22 pm to cwill
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Appeal to the SCt, which the gov will do...its stacked in their favor (or not
What an absurdity
Lower judges can simply overwhelm the system under this idiocy
Posted on 9/9/19 at 7:27 pm to ShortyRob
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Lower judges can simply overwhelm the system under this idiocy
They’re prepared to file in every jurisdiction if confined to the 9th.
Posted on 9/9/19 at 7:30 pm to cwill
Muh illegal imgrant workshop needs relief from Orange man
Posted on 9/9/19 at 7:34 pm to Strannix
Resist isn’t just a twitter hashtag. When you look at the lengths the FBI went to when their gal didn’t get elected, this isn’t much of a surprise.
Posted on 9/9/19 at 7:34 pm to AggieHank86
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Except that none of that bears much resemblance to what actually happened.
This is what happens when non-lawyers write news articles about judicial decisions. They frick it up.
Have to agree with you mostly on this one except for a few points- the article was written by Shannon Bream who does have a law degree and was apparently, at one point, admitted to practice, based on quick googling.
There area lot of legal procedural nuances in these rulings- i.e. whether a stay of a preliminary injunction on appeal should be restricted within the 9th Circus or be nationwide, ability to further develop muh record, etc., and all of that does make the article misleading. So there was not defiance. The 9th Circus invited this outcome.
But the misleading nature of the article does not make the substance of the district court's underlining findings or conclusions of law any less despicable. It is a disgusting power grab and defecation on the separation of powers.
Plus, the speed all of this has occurred is very revealing.
- July 16, 2019: DOJ and DHS publish joint interim final rule that migrants must first apply for asylum in Mexico before applying in US.
- July 17, 2019: Pro-illegal immigrant organizations move for temporary restraining order (converted by consent to preliminary injunction) to prevent order
[How many peaceful migrants must have died on 7/16 by mean orange man's order?]
- July 24, 2019: Court grants motion.
- Aug. 16, 2019: 9th Circuit denies motion to stay (block effects of Tigar's ruling) except within CA, AZ, WA, OR, etc.
- Thurs, September 5, 2019: current motion heard
- Today: Ruling with national implications issued.
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