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Obama returns to fight GOP Gerrymandering

Posted on 8/27/19 at 8:53 am
Posted by stFrancisville
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 8/27/19 at 8:53 am
LINK

Was there ever any doubt that this CHUD wasn't going to come back?
This post was edited on 8/27/19 at 8:59 am
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 8/27/19 at 8:56 am to
Please change your title

Include the link in the actual body not subject line.
Posted by dakarx
Member since Sep 2018
8122 posts
Posted on 8/27/19 at 8:58 am to
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"All on the Line's" website, "Redistricting U" will be “sending dedicated trainers to cities across the country to train volunteers, give them the tools to impact the redistricting process in their state, hear from them on how to best make change in their communities, and empower them to be leaders in the movement for fair maps.”



I'm quite confident that jugears et al and my definition of the word "fair" are diametrically opposed.
Posted by stFrancisville
Member since Sep 2018
344 posts
Posted on 8/27/19 at 8:59 am to
Got it. Thank you!
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
153560 posts
Posted on 8/27/19 at 8:59 am to
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stFrancisville
Why is your s lower case and your F capitalized?

This disturbs and offends me
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
56656 posts
Posted on 8/27/19 at 9:07 am to
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Obama returns to fight GOP Gerrymandering



Hmmm....Top 10 most gerrymandered districts.

LINK

10. NY 10 - DEMOCRAT
9. MD 6 - DEMOCRAT
8. FL 22 - DEMOCRAT
7. LA 2 - DEMOCRAT
6. NC 4 - DEMOCRAT
5. TX 35 - DEMOCRAT
4. OH 9 - DEMOCRAT
3. MD 3 - DEMOCRAT
2. FL 5 - DEMOCRAT
1. NC 12 - DEMOCRAT

Don't think GOP gerrymandering is the problem.
This post was edited on 8/27/19 at 9:20 am
Posted by stFrancisville
Member since Sep 2018
344 posts
Posted on 8/27/19 at 9:09 am to
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Why is your s lower case and your F capitalized?

This disturbs and offends me


Thank you. Its Pavlovian.
Posted by Kino74
Denham springs
Member since Nov 2013
5360 posts
Posted on 8/27/19 at 9:11 am to
The thing is on one hand you hand Democrats denouncing the electoral college while pushing for districts minority majority at same time.

Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
23865 posts
Posted on 8/27/19 at 9:19 am to
I was thinking about gerrymandering this am. If St. George happens, will whites be able to gerrymander to gain back some districts lost?
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 8/27/19 at 9:20 am to
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10. NY 10 - DEMOCRAT
9. MD 6 - DEMOCRAT
8. FL 22 - DEMOCRAT
7. LA 2 - DEMOCRAT
6. NC 4 - DEMOCRAT
5. TX 35 - DEMOCRAT
4. OH 9 - DEMOCRAT
3. MD 3 - DEMOCRAT
2. FL 5 - DEMOCRAT
1. NC 12 - DEMOCRAT

Don't thing GOP gerrymandering is the problem.
Quite a few of those are found in Red states and enacted by GOP legislatures. You can gerrymander a district for the opposition in order to guarantee several surrounding districts for yourself, and it is no less gerrymandered than the district you created for yourself. Tex35 is a PERFECT example.

Both parties do it. It is smart politics.
This post was edited on 8/27/19 at 9:29 am
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
56656 posts
Posted on 8/27/19 at 9:23 am to
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Quite a few of those are found in Red states and enacted by GOP legislatures.


Who created the district formations as they currently sit? Who runs these districts?

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You can gerrymander a district for the opposition in order to guarantee several surrounding districts for yourself


So the GOP gerrymandered these districts on purpose, to give the Democrats their own district to shut them up?
Posted by sotex
Member since Oct 2018
224 posts
Posted on 8/27/19 at 9:27 am to
I'm sure [link=(he's also concerned about gerrymandering in MD)]https://www.thedailybeast.com/democrats-hate-gerrymanderingexcept-when-they-get-to-do-it[/link], PA, NY, and CA.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 8/27/19 at 9:28 am to
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So the GOP gerrymandered these districts on purpose, to give the Democrats their own district to shut them up?
Have you ever worked in a state legislature? I have.

The answer to your question is “yes, but not to shut them up.”. You do it to remove opposition voters from surrounding Districts.

As the party in power, would you prefer four competitive Districts, or three safe Districts for your party and one safe District for the opposition?
Posted by CptRusty
Basket of Deplorables
Member since Aug 2011
11740 posts
Posted on 8/27/19 at 9:28 am to
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Quite a few of those are found in Red states and enacted by GOP legislatures. You can gerrymander a district for the opposition in order to guarantee several surrounding districts for yourself, and it is no less gerrymandered than the district you created for yourself. Tex35 is a PERFECT example.



jesus, people will downvote you for anything.

You're 100% correct, of course.

Gerrymandering is a bipartisan problem.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
56656 posts
Posted on 8/27/19 at 9:31 am to
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The answer to your question is “yes, but not to shut them up.”. You do it to remove opposition voters from surrounding Districts.


And this only happens from the GOP side, right? The GOP is allowing these gerrymandered districts for the greater good of the party? Your logic is flawed.

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As the party in power, would you prefer four competitive Districts, or three safe Districts for your party and one safe District for the opposition?


I'd prefer common sense districting that doesn't snake its way in and out of a district.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 8/27/19 at 9:31 am to
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jesus, people will downvote you for anything.
You are correct. Watch.


HANK LOVES MIKE THE TIGER!


Watch the downvotes flow.
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 8/27/19 at 9:32 am to
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fair maps


Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
56656 posts
Posted on 8/27/19 at 9:32 am to
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Watch the downvotes flow.


You're being downvoted because you're a historically bad poster. You saying "watch me get downvoted no matter what i say" should be confirmation bias for yourself, that your posts aren't very good.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 8/27/19 at 9:32 am to
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HANK LOVES MIKE THE TIGER!



That's gross. Also, a good way to get eaten by a tiger.

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Watch the downvotes flow.




This post was edited on 8/27/19 at 9:34 am
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 8/27/19 at 9:33 am to
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quote:

The answer to your question is “yes, but not to shut them up.”. You do it to remove opposition voters from surrounding Districts.
And this only happens from the GOP side, right?
Where did I say this?

Your bias is astounding.
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