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re: Verdict: FLA July '18 'Stand Your Ground' - M. Drejka guilty in death of M. McGlockton

Posted on 8/23/19 at 11:13 pm to
Posted by Hermit Crab
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Posted on 8/23/19 at 11:13 pm to
Just watched the video, doesn’t look like he was “looking to inflict great bodily injury” he was protecting his girlfriend from getting yelled at by some loon who takes it upon himself to enforce parking violations at a gas station by yelling at someone for a few minutes.

Also never looked like he kept going after him after the initial push
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 8/24/19 at 12:34 am to
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Also never looked like he kept going after him after the initial push


He actually did, but he saw the guy pulling out a gun and then backed off. He was going to do more harm to him up until that or at least seemed like he would. If Drejka had fired immediately in same motion he pulled out his gun it would have been hard to not call it self defense, but he didn’t.

There also didn’t appear to be any witnesses stating that the moment he stopped backing up right before getting shot McGlockton had started back challenging him and threatening him verbally like he started to doubt Drejka would fire and might quickly reengage.

It seems like correct verdict, but I don’t doubt that having a gun saved Drejka. He just didn’t need to fire (especially when he did), and if he hadn’t cops would have been arresting McGlockton for assault.
This post was edited on 8/24/19 at 12:39 am
Posted by MiDixon Yermouth
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 8/24/19 at 1:32 am to
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he was protecting his girlfriend from getting yelled at


Well, I'm not sure the shooting was completely warranted but that was a criminal act, NOT "protecting his girlfriend from getting yelled at".

In the U.S., the law intends for law abiding citizens to be protected by specific statutes. A simple motion towards another that has the mere appearance of the intent to shove, push, or the raising of a hand.. as if one may strike... is defined as an "assault". This is a crime.

If one completes the motion... and does shove, push, or strike another... this is defined as "assault and battery"... and that person becomes a criminal... he commits a crime punishable by law.

In majority of situations, yelling at someone is not a crime.. and there are no laws to protect a U.S. citizen from ever being yelled at (again, in majority of situations). So, McGlockton committed a crime, we clearly see criminal behavior.

Now, what we don't know.. is did Drejka shake his fist or verbally threaten the woman? If so, according to law, another crime was committed. But this still gives no legal right whatsoever for McG. to so much as even touch Drej., ...much less push him to the ground.

What we also don't know from the video... is did McG. make a verbal threat while assualting Drej.? If McG. said something like,"you yell at my girl?? M.F. I'll kill you", as his battery of Drej. took place, then I think you'll find the use of deadly force is well justified in a "stand your ground" state and many others.

In the U.S. there's simply no legal right for use of any type physical force for the action of Drej. yelling at the woman. If I shove someone to the ground, even if yelling at my wife... ..at that moment the law says I've become a criminal.. ..and I'd expect to be arrested and convicted for assault and battery. I'd also expect if I did this as a regular practice, I'd probanly end up shot and killed. If I verbally threaten that person while battering, I'd also know I've given that person legal right to shoot and kill me.

The bottom line here is simple. Abide by the law. If one abides by the law, chances of getting shot and killed decrease **significantly**. The selfish who take parking for the disabled do deserve reprimand. No apparent law was broken when Drej. confronted the woman. It may be questionable whether he had the right to shoot, but McG. did in fact show criminal behavior by shoving Drej. to the ground before the fact. The rest is history.... What is sad is that when any society begins to ignore its laws, no one is safe and there will be no real justice for anyone.
This post was edited on 8/24/19 at 1:44 am
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