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re: Who's Calling Plays - Ensminger or Brady?
Posted on 8/14/19 at 3:00 pm to Lester Earl
Posted on 8/14/19 at 3:00 pm to Lester Earl
Start paying attention to what so far? Some of the stats Brady has racked up at LSU as the play caller? Some of the stats he racked up as a play calling coach at the Saints, who had a trash QB and were a perennial bottom dweller on offense before Joe Brady came to town?
Oh wait......
Not saying he won't be a good coach, but people already anointing him king need to take a deep breath and calm down.
I'll be waiting for your contrarian response...
Oh wait......
Not saying he won't be a good coach, but people already anointing him king need to take a deep breath and calm down.
I'll be waiting for your contrarian response...
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Posted on 8/14/19 at 3:00 pm to SammyTiger
Kendall Briles
David Yost
Mike Yurcich
Graham Harrell
These guys are ALL under contract. NOT easy to hire. And very few OCs will even considera lateral move to another OC job.
They are looking for an HC job as their next career move. Almost any mid-level Power-5 program pays 2.5 million or more. And they get to run their own show.
David Yost
Mike Yurcich
Graham Harrell
These guys are ALL under contract. NOT easy to hire. And very few OCs will even considera lateral move to another OC job.
They are looking for an HC job as their next career move. Almost any mid-level Power-5 program pays 2.5 million or more. And they get to run their own show.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 3:02 pm to Fat Neck
quote:Wait a few weeks. You'll figure it out.
I'll be waiting for your contrarian response...
Posted on 8/14/19 at 3:02 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
Good coaches come from everywhere. Time to start paying attention
This isn't wrong, but you'd have to completely be ignoring what others have said throughout this thread. Most P5 schools, especially your "blue bloods", are not incubators/guinea pigs for throwing a guy in his late 20s/early 30s into the fire.
This isn't really a terribly foreign concept. I would imagine that every gainfully employed person in here can relate. The more experience you have on your resume, the more desirable you are to employers.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 3:04 pm to CP3forMVP
quote:
Nothing I’ve heard makes me think Ensminger is still the OC. He may have the title, and he’s gonna call plays on Saturdays, but Brady is the guy behind everything.
please share what you have "heard". This oughta be good.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 3:05 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
Yea, absolutely none of these names were available for any dollar amount when Ed was looking for a new OC after he divorced Canada. None of them.
Not Kendall Briles, whose contract at Houston was so lucrative he wouldn't come coach at a major SEC program. Not Graham Harrell, who also had a great contract at a small program. Not Mike Yurich, no amount of money would have lured him to BR from Stillwater.
Ed said he was going to hire the best coordinators in the nation, and the best OC in the nation was already on his staff. Whodathunk it.
Not Kendall Briles, whose contract at Houston was so lucrative he wouldn't come coach at a major SEC program. Not Graham Harrell, who also had a great contract at a small program. Not Mike Yurich, no amount of money would have lured him to BR from Stillwater.
Ed said he was going to hire the best coordinators in the nation, and the best OC in the nation was already on his staff. Whodathunk it.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 3:07 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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These guys are ALL under contract. NOT easy to hire. And very few OCs will even considera lateral move to another OC job.
They all got out of their contracts this offseason and are coaching somewhere new.
And LSU isn’t a lateral move from Houston, Utah State, Oklahoma state or North Texas.
quote:
They are looking for an HC job as their next career move. Almost any mid-level Power-5 program pays 2.5 million or more. And they get to run their own show.
Maybe in a year or two but I’d take that problem.
This post was edited on 8/14/19 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 8/14/19 at 3:07 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
quote:
And very few OCs will even considera lateral move to another OC job.
this simply isn't true. Look no further than Jim Chaney going from UGA to Tennessee.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 3:11 pm to Beessnax
quote:
O is again a genius for not giving him too much latitude
Except for the part about O being here for 3 full seasons and still wouldn’t have turned the offense around. Yeah, that won’t be a good thing.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 3:12 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
quote:
Kendall Briles
David Yost
Mike Yurcich
Graham Harrell
These guys are ALL under contract. NOT easy to hire. And very few OCs will even considera lateral move to another OC job.
LSU would not be a lateral move for these guys. We're a top 5 type of team.
This post was edited on 8/14/19 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 8/14/19 at 3:13 pm to Goldrush25
If you consider Houston -> FSU and North texas -> USCw lateral
Now none of them would have come here to be PGC/OCIW
Which is why I’m happy with the Brady hire given the circumstances
Now none of them would have come here to be PGC/OCIW
Which is why I’m happy with the Brady hire given the circumstances
This post was edited on 8/14/19 at 3:14 pm
Posted on 8/14/19 at 3:14 pm to VoodooDoctor
quote:The fact that there "very few" do indeed move on, does NOT make my statement untrue. But you know that.
this simply isn't true. Look no further than Jim Chaney going from UGA to Tennessee.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 3:15 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
I mean The fact that none of the 4 coaches I mentioned would have been making a “lateral” move to LSU and all 4 made moves to new schools this offseason sorta does.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 3:15 pm to VoodooDoctor
quote:
but you'd have to completely be ignoring what others have said throughout this thread. Most P5 schools, especially your "blue bloods", are not incubators/guinea pigs for throwing a guy in his late 20s/early 30s into the fire.
Again he isn't even the offensive coordinator yet.
quote:
I would imagine that every gainfully employed person in here can relate. The more experience you have on your resume, the more desirable you are to employers.
This isn't the real world though. This is football. And Information the public is not privy too is much more important than what your resume' says. It's why Cam Cameron, a guy with NFL pedigree can bomb, and Gus Mahlzan, a HS coach, can run through the SEC.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 3:16 pm to SammyTiger
quote:No. Do you?
If you consider Houston -> FSU and North texas -> USCw lateral
Non-Power-5 to Power-5... not lateral
And sure, there are exceptions. But if the OC is strong, he's likely to get HC offers after a couple seasons.
This post was edited on 8/14/19 at 3:19 pm
Posted on 8/14/19 at 3:18 pm to Fat Neck
quote:I'm actually excited, yes. Or maybe hopeful is the better word.
People already exclaiming that the guy that has never been an OC in his life will be the OC in a year or two. We know this without him ever coaching LSU in an actual football game in his life.
If 0 is looking to promote Brady to OC next year, with this year being one of heavy influence from Brady, then I commend him on the high risk/reward.
Of course, 0's hiring of Canada was also exciting, and somehow 0 managed to screw that up.
If the transition gets bumpy this year, I would not be shocked to see 0 run off Brady before he matures into the role.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 3:18 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
USC isn't lateral to LSU anymore. So what about Graham Harrell? He checks all of the boxes and we didn't even bring him in.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 3:18 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
Of course not.
I soecificallt Names those guys because they wouldn’t have been making a lateral move.
It’s why I left Josh Gattis and Tony Elliot off my list.
I soecificallt Names those guys because they wouldn’t have been making a lateral move.
It’s why I left Josh Gattis and Tony Elliot off my list.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 3:20 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
Again he isn't even the offensive coordinator yet.
I agree, however, there are no shortage of posters claiming Ensminger is some sort of figure head.
quote:
Gus Mahlzan, a HS coach, can run through the SEC.
the same Gus Malzahn whos been on the hot seat for like 4 years now and whos biggest offseason "news" was NFL draft scouts complaining that Auburn WRs didn't know a route tree from a hole in the ground?
This post was edited on 8/14/19 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 8/14/19 at 3:22 pm to SammyTiger
quote:
Now none of them would have come here to be PGC/OCIW
Well people are saying that Ensminger's only here as a placeholder until we get someone permanent to take the job. So one of those guys could've slid right in and Ensminger would've rode into the sunset this offseason.
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