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re: As a business owner labor is my #1 problem...

Posted on 8/8/19 at 8:16 pm to
Posted by rilesrick
Member since Mar 2015
6704 posts
Posted on 8/8/19 at 8:16 pm to
Lots of truth here.
Posted by captainFid
Vestavia, AL
Member since Dec 2014
4825 posts
Posted on 8/8/19 at 8:17 pm to
quote:

I can't find amyone willing to work for price I want to pay, that can be reliable and pass a drug test. So I resort to H2A workers


Fixed it for you OP.
Posted by SpringBokCock
Columbia, SC
Member since Oct 2003
3157 posts
Posted on 8/8/19 at 8:47 pm to
This thread is where reality trumps (no pun intended) ideology.
Posted by TidenUP
Dauphin Island
Member since Apr 2011
14450 posts
Posted on 8/8/19 at 8:51 pm to
quote:

labor is my #1 problem..


Correct. The American taxpayer shouldn't subsidize your shitty wages through welfare, medicaid for kids, and food stamps because you want cheap, illegal laborers for your company.
Posted by Ted2010
Member since Oct 2010
38958 posts
Posted on 8/8/19 at 8:53 pm to
Good post. Very true.
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64794 posts
Posted on 8/8/19 at 8:56 pm to
Is there a movement to move on legal immigrants? I do not understand why the op is posting his employment preference as a debatable topic.
Posted by Hammond Tiger Fan
Hammond
Member since Oct 2007
16223 posts
Posted on 8/8/19 at 8:56 pm to
quote:

Why do Americans suck arse at work. Take no pride in anything and are lazy as hell. 


A lot of truth in this statement. Most Americans don't want to do hard work like agricultural work. I know that I surely don't. That's why I went to college so I can sit my lazy arse in the A/C and work on a computer 4 to 5 hours per day and play around on TD 4 to 5 hours per day.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
6746 posts
Posted on 8/8/19 at 8:58 pm to
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I can't find amyone willing to work that can be reliable and pass a drug test.


Drug tests are stupid. If they do the job properly, then it is none of your business what they do off the clock. There are a lot of people that use drugs that are competent workers. You artificially limit your applicant pool and then complain about not being able to find workers. Are you one of those people in the documentaries that complains about not being able to find American workers because the homeless mental case you offered a job to said no?

Do you really think your hispanics don't get drunk after work? Drugs are ok, as long as it is government approved drugs, apparently.

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The few American s that I have make 50,000 + a year so I don't believe money is the problem.


You're not paying someone with little experience $50k a year to work a field. Your American supervisor might make that much, but the employees doing the labor are not.
Posted by WWII Collector
Member since Oct 2018
7141 posts
Posted on 8/8/19 at 8:59 pm to
Hate to say it... But the OP is pretty spot on.. A lot of American youth are spolied.. Don;t want to work.. Play games.. Won;t get off tier phone.. Feel entitled.. Undependable.. ETC..

The Hispanics do better work.. Have a better attitude.. Work their asses off.. and are actually Happy to be here in America... While our own kids do nothing but complain about it...

I'll probably take some heat... But believe me.. I see it... and anyone that is in a position to hire people that don;t have college degrees see it too.

I have a joke.. American Strippers have gotten so lazy that they don't even go to strip anymore. They just ask their customers to mail the money in.

This post was edited on 8/8/19 at 9:01 pm
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 8/8/19 at 9:02 pm to
quote:

I provide housing with all amenities / direct TV/ internet, ...the works.

I also provide transportation. A work truck.


That isn't bad and that's non-taxable income. Plus for them and you.

That could be up to 2k a month in pay.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262605 posts
Posted on 8/8/19 at 9:13 pm to
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The American taxpayer shouldn't subsidize your shitty wages through welfare, medicaid for kids, and food stamps because you want cheap, illegal laborers for your company.


Blame the government.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262605 posts
Posted on 8/8/19 at 9:14 pm to
quote:

Fixed it for you OP.


So you want his wages to make him uncompetitive?

I'm starting to feel Bernie Bots invaded this thread
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54753 posts
Posted on 8/8/19 at 9:21 pm to
quote:

And working on a rig is up there in OSHA. I got a brain. Why would I waste that cranking a drill and hope it doesn’t blow me off the deck?



Why do you assume this is about you?
Posted by Sasquatch_Rooster
Houma
Member since Jul 2019
71 posts
Posted on 8/8/19 at 9:38 pm to
quote:

Drug tests are stupid


This statement tells me you don't own your own business.

How do you explain toothless T-Roy driving your 300,000 dollar tractor over a school bus full of kids while free basing Chrystal methenphetimine to your insurance adjuster.

Or your truck drivers getting pulled over under the influence of crack.

Your insurance company will try and call it negligence on your part and opt out of paying claim and then....

Or they pay the claim and drop you. Your next quoted premium is in affordable and then.....

Then you go bankrupt and loose all you have up as collateral at the bank.

So drug test are a necessity in business
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 8/8/19 at 9:42 pm to
Then his family sues the frick out of you if he dies in the wreck.

This is one of the reasons MJ won't get legalized nation wide. Insurance companies and businesses take huge exposure and I'm 100% for legalizing weed.
Posted by TidenUP
Dauphin Island
Member since Apr 2011
14450 posts
Posted on 8/8/19 at 9:44 pm to
quote:

Blame the government.


Why blame the govt if an employer is willing to ignore the law and STILL provide employment to someone who is here illegally, pay them wages that put them in position to qualify for govt handouts?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262605 posts
Posted on 8/8/19 at 9:51 pm to
quote:

Why blame the govt if an employer is willing to ignore the law and STILL provide employment to someone who is here illegally,


Government should never give benefits to illegals, period.

People hire foreigners because hey can't hire enough native born that can keep a job more than a few weeks.
Posted by umop_apisdn
Member since Sep 2017
3673 posts
Posted on 8/8/19 at 9:51 pm to
Then fuuuk yo business.

GTFO

*Hoping my comment was edited enough
This post was edited on 8/8/19 at 9:53 pm
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22722 posts
Posted on 8/8/19 at 9:55 pm to
quote:

This is one of the reasons MJ won't get legalized nation wide. Insurance companies and businesses take huge exposure and I'm 100% for legalizing weed.


Unless he tests them each day to see if they are drunk then how does all that said not apply to alcohol? Couldn’t all that happen if a guy drank a couple of beers in the way to work?
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 8/8/19 at 9:59 pm to
quote:

Then fuuuk yo business.


Have you ever tried hiring manual labor? Especially in 2019?

I have barely functioning retarded people working for me because unemployment is at a number that you can almost only get people that don't want to work.

Everyday I have customers ask me if I know ANYONE looking for work because they can't staff their jobs.

People turning down work because they can't staff the job.

But frick him because he is going the legal route to obtain workers? What is wrong with people?
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