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re: In response to all who piled on Trump being a racist xenophobe
Posted on 7/15/19 at 12:38 pm to SUB
Posted on 7/15/19 at 12:38 pm to SUB
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You missed the part where it's clear he's not trying to say something racist. No rational person would interpret this as racist: "Go back to your country, fix their problems, then come back and tell us how that went." Only someone foaming at the mouth to shout "racist!" would interpret it that way.
I'm saying that it is nonsensical and it appeals to the racist/xenophobic faction that supports Trump. I don't know what the media is saying.
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He just did in a press conference. Apparently what he meant is "if they don't like it here, they are welcome to leave." I don't get how you get there from the tweets but whatever.
In other words, still nonsensical
Getting mad at people for not being able to decipher nonsense is ridiculous. You can't even do it. He's pandering. Duh
This post was edited on 7/15/19 at 12:40 pm
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Posted on 7/15/19 at 12:41 pm to pizzatiger
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pizzatiger
No dad growing up ?
Posted on 7/15/19 at 12:44 pm to GhostofJackson
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they are a tech giant and we use that tech in our society everyday
We have the most dynamic tech industry in the world. We have chosen to invest in Israel, and buy from Israel, for largely political reasons.
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they are one of the top foreign countries where American nationals reside (200k+) so we have a lot of reason to make sure they are safe.
And all we’ve done is enable Israel’s foolish and self defeating foreign policy, which endangers those people.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 12:48 pm to SUB
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Where are you from? Where do you live? Where were you born? Where is your family from?
Ok. How would you answer if asked for your nationality?
This post was edited on 7/15/19 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 7/15/19 at 12:49 pm to 93and99
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No dad growing up ?
I think your pull string is malfunctioning
Posted on 7/15/19 at 12:50 pm to pizzatiger
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Getting mad at people for not being able to decipher nonsense is ridiculous.
Not at all what I said or implied. You are reaching. I'm not mad first of all, just annoyed. Second, it's not that the media and others can't decipher it at all. They are claiming that they understood what he said and understood it as racist, which is ridiculous. It's the trying to manifest racism out of nothing that bothers me.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 12:51 pm to Jorts R Us
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How would you answer if asked for your nationality?
You know the answer. What are you getting at?
It's not some new thing where Trump says something that isn't exactly what he means...see the "muslim ban." That sounded way worse but I never believed he planned on banning all Muslims because it's not possible to enforce.
This post was edited on 7/15/19 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 7/15/19 at 12:52 pm to SUB
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At what point does someone stop being from another country?
Well that's certainly debatable, isn't it?
I don't think so. My friend was born and raised in England. He is now a US citizen. He loves the US. His answer would be that he is "from England."
So I guess the answer is that you are from where you are from.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 12:52 pm to SUB
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You know the answer. What are you getting at?
Gauging at what point you consider someone to not be from somewhere else.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 12:52 pm to cajunangelle
Yep. Liberals only like American jews that are non-practicing.
They absolutely fricking hate the jews in Israel. Israeli jews are more religious and the only religion the liberals tolerate and rally behind is Islam.
They absolutely fricking hate the jews in Israel. Israeli jews are more religious and the only religion the liberals tolerate and rally behind is Islam.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 12:53 pm to 93and99
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No dad growing up ?
I see you've given up on defending the nonsense and you're resorting to melty shite posting
Posted on 7/15/19 at 12:54 pm to jimmy the leg
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So I guess the answer is that you are from where you are from.
Or where you are born and raised?
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My friend was born and raised in England
This post was edited on 7/15/19 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 7/15/19 at 12:56 pm to Jorts R Us
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Or where you are born?
So what is your angle here? I have answered fully.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 12:58 pm to Jorts R Us
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Gauging at what point you consider someone to not be from somewhere else.
I know, but what are you trying to prove? I'm lost. I don't think there is one answer for the question. Different people answer it in different ways and it depends on the context of how you are asked the question.
All I'm saying is there's not 1 answer to the question. There are a lot of variables that impact the answer.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 1:01 pm to jimmy the leg
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So what is your angle here? I have answered fully.
Well, if you are from where you are born then how should one take it when someone suggests you are from somewhere else, particularly when others who are born where you are born aren't given the same suggestion?
This post was edited on 7/15/19 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 7/15/19 at 1:03 pm to Jorts R Us
Well, if you are from where you are born then how should one take it when someone suggests you are from somewhere else?
Please state definitively whom you believe this applies to, preferably with proof as opposed to conjecture.
Please state definitively whom you believe this applies to, preferably with proof as opposed to conjecture.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 1:04 pm to jimmy the leg
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Well, if you are from where you are born then how should one take it when someone suggests you are from somewhere else? Please state definitively whom you believe this applies to, preferably with proof as opposed to conjecture.
I thought you didn't want to be disingenuous?
You've also seemingly changed your standard for determining where someone is from. This morning you seemed to agree that saying Diana DeGette is from Japan just because she was born there is silly.
This post was edited on 7/15/19 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 7/15/19 at 1:08 pm to Jorts R Us
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I thought you didn't want to be disingenuous?
I am not. You, on the otherhand...via deflection, seem to be. Your lack of factual evidence seems to be an issue for the narrative you are implying.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 1:11 pm to jimmy the leg
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I am not
Riiiiight.
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narrative
What narrative is that? The Trump is a racist bit? I've gone on record saying I don't think he is a racist or that his tweet reflected racism. I do, however, disagree that the question of addressing how we define where someone is from is some throwaway point.
And frankly, the answer to your parroted talking point/gotcha is irrelevant in this discussion. Whether we are discussing AOC or Norma Torres-- You want buy-in or do you want hyphenated Americans?
This post was edited on 7/15/19 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 7/15/19 at 1:11 pm to cajunangelle
Love the “Congress women of color”
Forbidden to disagree with, disapprove of or say anything negative about anyone of color. Right.
Forbidden to disagree with, disapprove of or say anything negative about anyone of color. Right.
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