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re: SCOTUS will hear DACA next year. I predict Roberts sides with RBG
Posted on 6/28/19 at 10:38 am to gaetti15
Posted on 6/28/19 at 10:38 am to gaetti15
quote:
Que?????
Any history behind this thought our is this out of your arse?
DACA is not signed law. It's merely an Executive Order. Until the libs came charging over the hill with their army of lawyers, it was totally understood that any POTUS could countermand a previous administration's EOs with the same stroke of the pen as created it by the predecessor.
When libs can't win, they go to the courts.
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Posted on 6/28/19 at 10:48 am to VoxDawg
quote:
it was totally understood that any POTUS could countermand a previous administration's EOs with the same stroke of the pen as created it by the predecessor.
Oh I completely understand and agree with that.
What I dont understand is where that opinion of why it would fail the courts came about. Like is that an opinion that was pulled out of thin air or legitimately argued
Posted on 6/28/19 at 10:54 am to gaetti15
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Any history behind this thought our is this out of your arse?
No. In my mind there are three questions:
- Can Trump countermand Obama's EO. The answer is probably yes.
- Was DACA constitutional? maybe or maybe not
- However, you have these people who applied for protection under DACA because Obama issued that EO. Should they continue to receive that protection? Probably yes.
This post was edited on 6/28/19 at 10:55 am
Posted on 6/28/19 at 10:58 am to The Maj
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RBG won't make it to next year...
Democrats havent met a corpse that doesnt vote for them...
Posted on 6/28/19 at 12:36 pm to Turbeauxdog
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Why in gods name would republicans wait until after the election?
The Dems will delay the process until after the election, the same Repubs from Kavanaugh hearing will concur out of respect for RBG.
Posted on 6/28/19 at 12:47 pm to Godfather1
quote:
There’s very little question: somebody has Roberts by the nads.
No one has Roberts by the balls, he's a beltway insider, who will do everything he can to roadblock DJT.
Posted on 6/28/19 at 12:49 pm to OchoDedos
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No one has Roberts by the balls
There are those of us who will agree to disagree with you on that front. Roberts is a disgrace as CJSCOTUS.
Posted on 6/28/19 at 8:28 pm to 14&Counting
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The problem I see is that Obama issued the EO an then people applied and registered under DACA and relied on that. They complied with the directive that was issued and are now in jepordy of being deported because the relied on that directive
So
fricking
What?
It's a goddamned executive order.
A subsequent President has an ABSOLUTE RIGHT to undo or reverse the EO of a predecessor. To conclude otherwise is to imbue a president with lawmaking authority - which is anathema to the constitutional separation of powers.
Posted on 6/28/19 at 8:53 pm to udtiger
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A subsequent President has an ABSOLUTE RIGHT to undo or reverse the EO of a predecessor. To conclude otherwise is to imbue a president with lawmaking authority - which is anathema to the constitutional separation of powers.
Did I say otherwise?
The issue I am pointing out is that its going to be difficult to deport the people who were approved under DACA because they relied on what the government told them under the previous administration.
Posted on 6/28/19 at 10:37 pm to 14&Counting
The govt told millions that if they like their doctor, they can keep their doctor,too.
Boo hoo and buh bye.
Boo hoo and buh bye.
Posted on 6/28/19 at 11:42 pm to Ollieoxenfree99
Do you notice how NO Liberal justices ever break ranks on important issues or even turn into moderates, much less conservatives...
...but the list of Republican-nominated justices often turn moderate, liberal or side with liberals on big issues (Souter, Roberts, Kavanaugh/Gorsich occasionally.) Ford nominated John Paul Stevens who turned out to be one of the most liberal justices in the last half century.
And yet every time a Republican president gets to nominate, the press/dems scream about not having litmus tests (or that they're sexual predators/harrassers...whatever it takes to destroy them).
...but the list of Republican-nominated justices often turn moderate, liberal or side with liberals on big issues (Souter, Roberts, Kavanaugh/Gorsich occasionally.) Ford nominated John Paul Stevens who turned out to be one of the most liberal justices in the last half century.
And yet every time a Republican president gets to nominate, the press/dems scream about not having litmus tests (or that they're sexual predators/harrassers...whatever it takes to destroy them).
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