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If consumers will pay the tariffs, WHY did US companies move?

Posted on 6/1/19 at 5:37 am
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
18672 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 5:37 am
I keep hearing this mantra, US consumers will pay the tariffs. Does that mean they have no choice but to buy the goods and pay the tariffs. If so, why did US companies ever leave the US for cheaper manufacturing, US consumers were going to pay a higher price right, so why did they bother?
This post was edited on 6/1/19 at 5:39 am
Posted by Westworld
SEC Country
Member since Mar 2018
643 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 5:53 am to
labor, tax, hoes
Posted by Possumslayer
Pascagoula
Member since Jan 2018
6474 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 5:56 am to
EPA regs
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 6:01 am to
quote:

EPA regs


Something not pointed out enough.


Posted by tiger7166
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
2699 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 6:19 am to
By installing tariffs, the cheaper alternative is removed or placed in a closer quality and price consideration.
Posted by Skeezer
Member since Apr 2017
2296 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 6:23 am to
Economics In One Lesson

Read it.
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
14378 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 6:46 am to
Tariffs will hurt. But they hurt the other side more. That’s the point..... they are not long term or permanent. They are lunatics to get a change in action....
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
18672 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 6:51 am to
Im trolling fellas. I just keep hearing consumers pay the tariffs as if there are no other market factors in place. Shifting supply chains, eating the margin or losing the business, as well as many others.

For once in decades we are using our clout as the largest market in the world, and some on here seem more concerned about their avocado toast than the demise of their country.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23316 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 7:54 am to
The voices that should be heard are the manufacturing labor unions, but of course they are mostly democratic.

Manufacturing and blue collar jobs left the country due to much cheaper labor elsewhere, the tariffs help to level that playing field.

Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
19339 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 8:08 am to
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I keep hearing this mantra, US consumers will pay the tariffs

Typical scare tactic. Its the same with taxes. No one has ever called their bluff and told them to GTFO.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
38619 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 8:11 am to
"pay"....just what is the cost and who will 'pay' for all those poor and sick and many unemployable (for various reasons) illegal immigrants that are storming the Border by the tens of thousands? Projected to be a million this year. What will the TOTAL be for the Social Services required to meet their needs; and or the incarceration costs of illegal immigrant lawbreakers? Or how these massive cost will affect Medicare and Social Security for all the folk who have PAID IN for their whole life?

The cost on stuff is nothing in relation to the real cost our society will pay. Shell game up there; Trump needs to expose it with a big time, highly publicized educational Speech on this subject...real numbers included. Let the MSM run into that wind.
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12825 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 8:14 am to
Taxes from the democrats. They are trying to make as much profit as possible. Funny how democrats are against everything they want . Democrats should be 100% against buying goods from other countries. It hurts the carbon footprint and helps the rich profit more .
Posted by IrishTiger89
Member since May 2017
1492 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 8:17 am to
You say they won’t last long term but Xi does not have to get re-elected
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83059 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 9:15 am to
Many Democrats for years, including Bernie, have wanted tariffs. Bernie always stumped for tariffs. But orange man bad.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
19339 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 9:19 am to
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Many Democrats for years, including Bernie, have wanted tariffs. Bernie always stumped for tariffs. But orange man bad.


So DJT stole the idea from Bernie. Interesting.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
25005 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 9:22 am to
I wish this board understood absolute and comparative advantages. Countries are better suited / more efficient than others at certain tasks.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465601 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 9:23 am to
this board is obsessed with the American economy devolving for some reason
Posted by Muthsera
Member since Jun 2017
7319 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 9:25 am to
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The voices that should be heard are the manufacturing labor unions, but of course they are mostly democratic.


I would desperately love to see some polling of rank and file members in industrial unions.

Regardless of whether Trump wins or loses in 2020, if he can break the blue collar union vote from the Corporatist Third-Way Dems their leadership supports, it will be a great thing moving forward. Same with the black and Latino vote.

Isn't it about goddamn time that candidates earned our votes by representing the issues that are important to us?
Posted by Newgene
Waveland, MS
Member since Nov 2005
7279 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 9:26 am to
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So DJT stole the idea from Bernie. Interesting.


Nah, more than two people throughout history have supported tariffs
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29311 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 9:39 am to
Consumers will pay for part of the tariffs in the short term, and then the market adjusts, adversely affecting producers in a variety of ways.

This isn't really up for debate. I don't know why people give any of the IB Chinaman/MSNBC talking points the time of day.
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