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Will the ability to grow fetuses outside of a woman's body end the argument over abortion?

Posted on 5/22/19 at 1:09 pm
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 5/22/19 at 1:09 pm
I would think the medical technology to have a fetus grow outside of a womans body is not too far off, considering everything else they can do with fetuses and childbirth in general


In theory, shouldnt this solve the argument over abortion?

1. the pro-choice argument revolves around women having the choice over their body. Well, this would allow the fetus to be removed from their body

2. the pro-life crowd should be happy the fetus is now able to survive into childhood


What says the OT? Please dont move this to the political board. I would like somewhat neutral discussion.


My opinion is alot of people that hid behind "women should have the right to their body", truly are pro-choice because they dont want the idea of their child walking around this earth weighing on their mind constantly etc etc
This post was edited on 5/22/19 at 1:09 pm
Posted by J Murdah
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Posted on 5/22/19 at 1:09 pm to
Sounds gross
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 5/22/19 at 1:10 pm to
It would be funny to watch pro abortion people immediately start calling it a baby if it's growing outside the womb and they don't have to abort it.
Posted by arcalades
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Posted on 5/22/19 at 1:11 pm to
libs are the children of Satan. Satan is all about killing and destroying. Satan will continue killing and using libs to do it.
Posted by KosmoCramer
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Posted on 5/22/19 at 1:12 pm to
Removing the baby is an "Undue burden to the mother" would be the arguement.


The problem would truly be that Roe v Wade discusses viability outside the womb.

If a baby could be created and brought to term completely independent of a human womb, that's a legal game changer.

It's also why RvW is in trouble because as pre-natal technology has gotten better with premature births, its lowered the threshold for viability.
Posted by PrivatePublic
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Posted on 5/22/19 at 1:12 pm to
The plural of fungus is fungi. Why isn't the plural of fetus feti?
Posted by JetsetNuggs
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Posted on 5/22/19 at 1:13 pm to
I'm very interested in seeing the multitude of directions this thread can go
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/22/19 at 1:13 pm to
quote:

It would be funny to watch pro abortion people immediately start calling it a baby if it's growing outside the womb and they don't have to abort it.

Yeh. I am on the fence about the entire abortion thing, because I do get the "its my body thing" slightly


I just feel alot of people that are pro-choice arent so much about the womans choice, and they really just dont want the added weight/guilt of knowing they have a child in the world they arent taking care of

Posted by ccomeaux
LA
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Posted on 5/22/19 at 1:15 pm to
If only the people that would choose to kill their unborn children have abortions, why would the rest of us want to stop them ?

40 years are so and the issue resolved itself
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/22/19 at 1:18 pm to
quote:

Removing the baby is an "Undue burden to the mother" would be the arguement.


The problem would truly be that Roe v Wade discusses viability outside the womb.

If a baby could be created and brought to term completely independent of a human womb, that's a legal game changer.

Yep. And we arent far off. The hospital I work for is already transplanting the uterus from mothers to daughters.


Meaning, a 26 year daughter isnt able to carry the child do to their uterus being unstable. The daughter than gets her mother to transplant her uterus to her


So now, the daughter can get pregnant. So check this trippiness out. Now the 26 year old daughter, and the baby she is carrying were grown in the same uterus


Posted by Blaeke
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 5/22/19 at 1:27 pm to
I've always liked this strategy. I think it would be incredibly difficult to extract the fertilized embryo from the mother without killing the embryo, though.
Posted by Spelt it rong
Louisiana
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Posted on 5/22/19 at 1:29 pm to
Research how abortions are done and you'll realize that the "procedure" they follow today will change to that of a c-section. Cost will skyrocket and then you'll have an issue with where to keep the babies during their growth as well as after birth.
Posted by Philzilla2k
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Posted on 5/22/19 at 1:32 pm to
Similar to the “fetal viability” argument used by abortionist in the 80s. fricking science.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/22/19 at 1:32 pm to
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you'll have an issue with where to keep the babies during their growth as well as after birth.
Ofcourse. But that kind of goes back to my entire thought process

How much of abortion is truly about the womans body and her right? It feels to me more about "what the frick are we going to do with these kids?"
Posted by mindbreaker
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Posted on 5/22/19 at 1:35 pm to
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Satan


Isn't real
Posted by Spelt it rong
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/22/19 at 1:35 pm to
quote:

How much of abortion is truly about the womans body and her right? It feels to me more about "what the frick are we going to do with these kids?"

Can't say, since I'm not a woman.
I do wish that adoption were more feasible though. I have a couple friends who just adopted a little boy and it was >$30k.
Posted by crewdepoo
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Posted on 5/22/19 at 1:49 pm to
Would it still be their responsibility?

If not, who’s gonna care for it?
Posted by mdomingue
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/22/19 at 1:55 pm to
quote:

The problem would truly be that Roe v Wade discusses viability outside the womb.




Does it? Honest question, I am uncertain. I do know that in his majority opinion, Justice Harry Blackmun notes, “If this suggestion of personhood is established, [Roe’s] case, of course, collapses, for the fetus’ right to life would then be guaranteed specifically by the [14th] Amendment.”

That is the real conundrum here. And then it becomes how do we charge someone with murder, negligent homicide, infanticide or whatever when an unborn child is spontaneously aborted due to the actions of another like a drunk driver or an armed assailant or someone who kicks a pregnant woman in the abdomen.

We have a legal split personality here.
Posted by mdomingue
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/22/19 at 1:56 pm to
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quote:

Satan



Isn't real





Exactly what a spawn of Satan would say to protect pops.
Posted by ZappBrannigan
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Posted on 5/22/19 at 1:56 pm to
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