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re: Former FISC Presiding Judge John Bates discusses the Carter Page FISA applications
Posted on 5/15/19 at 6:24 am to SCLibertarian
Posted on 5/15/19 at 6:24 am to SCLibertarian
quote:Welp, not as long as Devin Nunes keeps sponsoring extensions
Seriously, FISA should be abolished.
It's amazing that people don't acknowledge that none of them want it gone, just some of them are mad it got used against them this time
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Posted on 5/15/19 at 6:28 am to JuiceTerry
quote:
just some of them are mad it got used against them this time
That should make everyone mad. Furious really. You included.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 6:29 am to MisslePig
quote:
I love how we’ve gone from “Trumps wires weren’t tapped” to “it wasn’t technically spying” to “it wasn’t illegal please don’t put us in jail”.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 6:30 am to Decatur
So he’s retired, not in the loop and seen some things on tv?
Posted on 5/15/19 at 6:33 am to BBONDS25
It would, if I took any of this seriously
But why should I, when Nunes, the most vocal puppet "against" the "abuse", is sponsoring bills to re-up while shooting down anything that reforms the institution?
But why should I, when Nunes, the most vocal puppet "against" the "abuse", is sponsoring bills to re-up while shooting down anything that reforms the institution?
Posted on 5/15/19 at 6:36 am to JuiceTerry
quote:Because it is the right thing to do?
But why should I
Posted on 5/15/19 at 8:02 am to MisslePig
quote:
Assuming he doesn’t and he has the same information we do, he could make this statement all day and be correct because we don’t have the information to say one way or the other with certainty that the FISA warrant was illegally obtained. Sure, there’s smoke and rumors and sources but at the end of the day “you haven’t see evidence” and the technicality of his statement is true. This screams cherry picked and out of context.
This is incorrect.
This is why I brought up the Isikoff Yahoo article.
We all know for a fact that Steele was the source of the Yahoo article. Isikoff testified to this.
And the redacted copies of the FISA warrants we’ve all seen have footnotes that specifically point at the Yahoo article as corroboration.
And thanks to John Solomon, we now have proof that the FBI knew 10 days in advance of the FISA application that Steele was leaking to the media by his own admission to State Dept officials.
This means the FBI KNEW they were using circular sourcing to manufacture “multiple sources” when they pitched their application to the FISC.
No matter all the other shite we think we know about this, this particular detail has now been 100% proven without a shadow of doubt.
They knowingly and willfully defrauded the FISC, and it’s all on paper that we can and have seen. So this is an unquestionable fact.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 8:12 am to NC_Tigah
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I love how we’ve gone from “Trumps wires weren’t tapped” to “it wasn’t technically spying” to “it wasn’t illegal please don’t put us in jail”.
Thats great.
And given the recent press regarding Clapper,Brennan,Rosey, McCabe, and Comey its fast becoming....
jail him not me...
Posted on 5/15/19 at 8:18 am to BeefDawg
Your beef should be with the incredibly low standard of the rubber stamp court, and the idiotic choice the campaign made to hire Carter Page
I'd almost blame the FBI for losing their shady edge if they hadn't jumped on that
I'd almost blame the FBI for losing their shady edge if they hadn't jumped on that
Posted on 5/15/19 at 8:25 am to JuiceTerry
quote:
Your beef should be with the incredibly low standard of the rubber stamp court,
Posted on 5/15/19 at 9:29 am to Decatur
That Bates guy is a Master, you say?
Posted on 5/15/19 at 9:53 am to Decatur
So a judge that wasn’t on the court when all this happened, isnt cleared to even review the application now or at the time it was submitted... somehow is supposed to be credible.
Im super glad for him that hes seen nothing to indicate court was misled because he HAS SEEN NOTHING.... at all.
Good try at spinning some fake news tho.
Im super glad for him that hes seen nothing to indicate court was misled because he HAS SEEN NOTHING.... at all.
Good try at spinning some fake news tho.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 12:49 pm to JuiceTerry
quote:
Your beef should be with the incredibly low standard of the rubber stamp court, and the idiotic choice the campaign made to hire Carter Page
I'd almost blame the FBI for losing their shady edge if they hadn't jumped on that
That's stupid.
The FBI went to the FISC with their first application, which only had the Steele Dossier as it's entire basis, and the FISA judge shot them down.
THEN, quite conveniently, the FBI's second attempt they pointed to the Isikoff Yahoo article as being a second INDEPENDENT source, suggesting the bullshite in the Dossier was now coming from two separate sources and therefore credible.
The FBI KNEW it wasn't 2 independent sources. They knew it was Steele sourcing both instances.
The FISA judge they pitched the application to would have gone on the notion that there were now 2 independent sources.
The FBI lied and defrauded the FISC.
They never even prosecuted Carter Page, so obviously all the BS regarding him in the Dossier was false.
YOU should be pissed off that Comey/McCabe/Strzok et al were clearly dirty and went after a Trump campaign staffer just so they could abuse the two-hop rule and spy on everything Team Trump.
YOU should be asking why they broke the law and did this, considering we all know there was zero collusion/conspiracy between Trump and Russia.
YOU should realize this was a brazen plot by anti-Trump political hacks to find dirt on Trump and not only try to influence the election, but then take him down after he won.
But you don't care about any of that, do you? You're just pissed it didn't work, and pissed you have to continually try to spin around the fact your side are actually the cheating evil pieces of shite, and not the Trump side.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 1:05 pm to BeefDawg
quote:
The FBI went to the FISC with their first application, which only had the Steele Dossier as it's entire basis, and the FISA judge shot them down.
Link? I’ve seen several people make this claim but no one can seem to show a factual basis for this claim.
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