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re: Mueller: Barr letter did not capture the "context" of Trump probe

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Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 10:28 pm to
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Difference between us is that I like to see justice regardless of political affiliation


Lmao
Posted by KingOrange
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 10:29 pm to
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If you get clocked going 59 in a 50 you might not get a ticket or even pulled over but you were still breaking the law.


Wrong again. This is a binary choice. You indict or you don’t. If you were investigated for going 59 in a 50 you would get a ticket. That is overwhelming evidence. In this case there was not enough evidence for a charge.
Posted by DallasTiger11
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 10:29 pm to
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Difference between us is that I like to see justice regardless of political affiliation

Once we come to fully understand the origins of this fraud of an investigation the pivot to obstruction will be even more laughable than believing Russian collusion.
Posted by bmy
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 10:29 pm to
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I actually work to save it. Every day. I don't care what the TV says. I keep working


Posted by bmy
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 10:30 pm to
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Wrong again. This is a binary choice. You indict or you don’t. If you were investigated for going 59 in a 50 you would get a ticket. That is overwhelming evidence. In this case there was not enough evidence for a charge


This makes zero sense you have obviously never worked with a DA before
This post was edited on 4/30/19 at 10:31 pm
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 10:32 pm to
You only care about the politics. It's sad.

I won't shame you by posting your post fukbshit because Obozo said it was handled.

I knew people that lost their lives there...do you? I give you shite for being antifa filth, but those are my friends.

Die filth. Just die
Posted by bmy
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 10:34 pm to
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Lmao


When/if ever Obama or HRC or any well connected democrat get perp walked and convicted of crimes.. will I be annoyed that I was wrong? Sure. But also glad justice was served.

I know that's a radical concept here though
This post was edited on 4/30/19 at 10:38 pm
Posted by KingOrange
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 10:34 pm to
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If you get clocked going 59 in a 50 you might not get a ticket or even pulled over but you were still breaking the law.


Then Bring the Charges Bro. But stop Bitching about context in a NON Charging Document. Who The Frick Cares.
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 10:35 pm to
Honestly. I will never respond to you again. frick you as a person
Posted by bmy
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 10:35 pm to
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You only care about the politics. It's sad.

I won't shame you by posting your post fukbshit because Obozo said it was handled.

I knew people that lost their lives there...do you? I give you shite for being antifa filth, but those are my friends.

Die filth. Just die


Go ahead. I doubt it's even in the top-5 most stupid things I have posted.

Your friends were heroes
This post was edited on 4/30/19 at 10:39 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 10:39 pm to
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bmy
You are being absolutely absurd.

The barr summary flat out said mueller did not exonerate trump on obstruction. Nobody forced Barr to put that into his 4 page summary.

If Barr was out to protect trump, why did he include that little morsel?

Fact: mueller did not tell barr the letter was inaccurate or misleading. He wanted barr to include more on the obstruction part so people understood why mueller punted the question to him/congress.
Posted by bmy
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 10:40 pm to
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He wanted barr to include more on the obstruction part so people understood why mueller punted the question to him/congress.


Exactly
Posted by 337Tiger19
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 10:44 pm to
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Fact: mueller did not tell barr the letter was inaccurate or misleading. He wanted barr to include more on the obstruction part so people understood why mueller punted the question to him/congress


Trump saying no collusion/obstruction based on the summary Barr gave is part of the problem too. You’d be hard pressed to find anyone that comes on Fox News after 5 PM that admits this was a punt to Congress. Do you not agree that Barr’s summary is what allowed the narrative to become such a shitshow in the media?
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 10:44 pm to
So why should Barr be impeached over that? That is absurd. The Barr summary and the Mueller report are 100% in tune.

This whole thing is a tempest in a teapot, imo. If Barr's summary had lied/misled about a key finding, that would be bad. For example, if Barr said something like "Mueller did not find obstruction occurred"...that would be grounds for a resignation.

The wapo report even says the call b/w mueller and barr was friendly and cordial. Mueller was concerned about media speculation (which could be woven as either good or bad for the president), and he believed Barr should have been more specific on the obstruction part.

I don't think Mueller was trying to "call out" Barr.
Posted by 337Tiger19
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Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 10:46 pm to
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The Barr summary and the Mueller report are 100% in tune


Are they really? The Barr summary alone suggests the Mueller Report is a nothingburger.

The Mueller Report is actually quite damning and many argue it is a roadmap for congress’ impeachment proceedings, left and right.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 10:51 pm to
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The Barr summary alone suggests the Mueller Report is a nothingburger.
No, it does not. It says Mueller did not exonerate trump on obstruction, and says Mueller found no conspiracy.

Anybody who read the barr summary knew there would be stuff there on obstruction and that there would be no evidence of conspiracy/coordination with the russians in their election interference.

Mueller's volume 1 was not damning, volume 2 was.

Just like the Barr "summary" foretold.


What, in your opinion, should Barr have included in his top-line summary to congress?
Posted by 337Tiger19
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 10:55 pm to
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What, in your opinion, should Barr have included in his top-line summary to congress?


I’m not sure exactly what I’d add, but I would have de-emphasized the rhetoric that allowed Trump and the night Fox News crew to spin what he said as “No Collusion! No Obstruction!” I also would have put more emphasis on the fact that this was basically, and for lack of a better term, a punt.


The Mueller Report says that trump “expected” help from Russia. Barr says, “No collusion found.”
This post was edited on 4/30/19 at 11:03 pm
Posted by DallasTiger11
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 11:31 pm to
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You’d be hard pressed to find anyone that comes on Fox News after 5 PM that admits this was a punt to Congress. Do you not agree that Barr’s summary is what allowed the narrative to become such a shitshow in the media?

Sorry it didn’t work out for you baw. You sound sad. Maybe next time?

Btw, Barr made it clear as hell Mueller “punted” on obstruction and him and Rod ended it there. Can you read?
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 11:34 pm to
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What lie did he tell under oath


Barr’s exact words were, "I don't know whether Bob Mueller supported my conclusion”


Mueller had already sent his disapproving letter before this was said


Yes Mueller had sent the letter. Mueller and Barr also talked on the phone before he testified.

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In that call, Mueller said he was concerned that media coverage of the obstruction investigation was misguided and creating public misunderstandings about the office’s work, according to Justice Department officials.

Mueller did not express similar concerns about the public discussion of the investigation of Russia’s election interference, the officials said. When Barr pressed Mueller on whether he thought Barr’s memo to Congress was inaccurate, Mueller said he did not but felt that the media coverage of it was misinterpreting the investigation, officials said.


Obviously you are unable to read.
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 11:39 pm to
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No, it does not. It says Mueller did not exonerate trump on obstruction, and says Mueller found no conspiracy.


My god you're a bitch
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