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re: Jrue for the Bulls or Suns first pick?
Posted on 4/21/19 at 11:45 am to corndeaux
Posted on 4/21/19 at 11:45 am to corndeaux
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Not every rebuild is the Process.
Look at Atlanta. That team was a blast to watch the last couple of months and seems to be on it's way to building a winner.
From Griffin's perspective I think any trade of Jrue would have to be for the right guy in this year's draft, not because he thinks great drafts are coming. Something like Jrue and 7 for Ja and Carter maybe could fit a rebuild trade that wouldn't be about committing to The Process.
Even that I really don't think interests Griffin much. Listen to what he said as an analyst when the AD trade demand broke. Mike Fratello asked if he'd trade AD and Jrue at the deadline to tank. Griffin's response?
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Boy I sure don't. I wouldn't go that far I don't think in that market. I don't think they can withstand that kind of a rebuild, and frankly I really am very high on Jrue Holiday by way of example. I don't think you're that terribly far away from being competitive if that's what ownership has set out to be. If what you want to do is start over again, you can still put yourself in a position to play more young kids and recoup young assets down the road for Anthony Davis and still in the Western Conference not be a playoff team. Your pick's going to be preserved simply by the virtue of the fact that this upheaval has happened.
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That is based on assumptions about the market before he got here, but have we really seen anything to suggest that his assumptions about a full rebuild were wrong? Back then it sounded like his Plan A would be rebuild around Jrue and all we've seen/heard so far confirms that it's still Plan A, maybe even Plan B behind convincing AD to stay.
This post was edited on 4/21/19 at 11:47 am
Posted on 4/21/19 at 11:57 am to TigerinATL
Smart people (which I think Griffin is) don't have that broad of a plan. Nor would he commit to a plan without getting the opinions of all these high priced people he is going to bring in.
You try to keep AD because he if worth more extended than not. But you don't just say "We aren't going to trade Jrue no matter the offers" -- you evaluate every opportunity individually and discuss it with other really smart people
You try to keep AD because he if worth more extended than not. But you don't just say "We aren't going to trade Jrue no matter the offers" -- you evaluate every opportunity individually and discuss it with other really smart people
Posted on 4/21/19 at 1:52 pm to TigerinATL
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have we really seen anything to suggest that his assumptions about a full rebuild were wrong?
This gets at a language problem everyone has whenever this or tanking comes up.
What does full rebuild mean? To me, it doesn't imply a Hinkie plan, but is it different than just a "regular" rebuild? What is the end goal of a rebuild? etc etc etc
For me, the Pels are in a rebuild regardless of what happens with Davis. They won 33 games this year and have won over 34 just twice in the last 8 years. They just fired their top basketball executive, restructured the org flow chart, and, seemingly, made promises to support a complete overhaul of the entire franchise.
This is going to be a process (no pun intended). That doesn't mean they have to strip the motherfricker to its studs, but it's going to take time. Anyone expecting playoffs next year, barring a miracle trade or seasons, is on some good shite
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