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re: Are expectations so low now, that some are legit upset at talk of getting a proven coach?
Posted on 4/20/19 at 5:03 pm to Damone
Posted on 4/20/19 at 5:03 pm to Damone
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No, over his last three full seasons
So instead if comparing apples to apples, the last 37 games which was what we were using, you want to pick some criteria that confirms your bias because the apples to apples scares you.
Posted on 4/20/19 at 5:08 pm to RogerTheShrubber
What’s the significance of 37 games? Comparing apples to apples would be comparing their entire careers as head coaches, I chose three seasons just because it’s closer to your arbitrarily chosen number used to try and make O look as good as possible.
Posted on 4/20/19 at 5:10 pm to Damone
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What’s the significance of 37 games?
the post you responded to which listed Jimbos last 37 games?
Why are you wanting to include only "full seasons?" Why not compare games coached over the exact time span?
Of course, we know why...
This post was edited on 4/20/19 at 5:12 pm
Posted on 4/20/19 at 5:10 pm to RobbBobb
Miles was not 2.0 he was loosing 4-5 games a year and bowls and never could game manage time or develop. Coach O may not be Saban or Jimbo but his recruiting class. This year is certainly above average against rest of SEC. and fillednkey spots for us. Besides that our coach in waiting has to be our DC if O doesn’t make it in a few more years.
Posted on 4/20/19 at 5:10 pm to FightingTigers138
Phil Fulmer at Tennessee? They thought they were elite and cut him loose. Look how that worked out!
Posted on 4/20/19 at 5:13 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Go figure you wouldn’t want to acknowledge O’s history as a head coach. Bending over backward to avoid it is telling in and of itself.
Posted on 4/20/19 at 5:13 pm to LSUKAT
ROFL Miles recruited head and shoulders better than O and objective rankings back it up.
Posted on 4/20/19 at 5:15 pm to Damone
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Go figure you wouldn’t want to acknowledge O’s history
We are using games over the exact same time span
You're wanting to selectively choose from one, not the other
If you want to make O look worse, use career. But gerrymandering stats is pathetic
This post was edited on 4/20/19 at 5:23 pm
Posted on 4/20/19 at 5:22 pm to 00 Tech Grad
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Orgeron has never achieved elite status, and is consistently losing 3-4 games a year also
You don't have a large enough sample to draw from to make this statement. Not to mention anyone that thinks that LSU was ready to compete for titles when O took over is either fooling themselves, foolish or just an outright liar.
The team is just now getting the depth issues straightened out. The offensive line still needs work.
The Canada debacle set the offense back. Looking back at 2018 all of you knew good and well that the pieces weren't in place yet you still love to get on here and crow about how there was talent all over the field and O & E were almost criminally negligent for not being able to field a top ten offense. I like where the offense is right now and you whiners will have to find something else to complain about this season.
Posted on 4/20/19 at 5:25 pm to Damone
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ROFL Miles recruited head and shoulders better than O and objective rankings back it up
Posted on 4/20/19 at 5:41 pm to bencoleman
What’s their average class ranking per 247? How many #1 classes has O had? How many top 3 classes has O had?
Posted on 4/20/19 at 5:46 pm to RobbBobb
O has surprised me to be honest but if you want to see the "low expectations" look at the baseball program......10 years.......
Posted on 4/20/19 at 5:51 pm to Tigersonfire
After Ole Miss I believe Orgeron changed. Not immediately but gradual. His winning percentage since Ole Miss is 74%
He's still going to have to get in the playoffs though before he can Garner more respect.
He's still going to have to get in the playoffs though before he can Garner more respect.
Posted on 4/20/19 at 5:58 pm to bencoleman
Odd how Canada’s offense managed to put more points on the board in one game than O and E have in two.
Posted on 4/20/19 at 6:02 pm to Damone
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Odd how Canada’s offense managed to put more points on the board in one game than O and E have in two.
Hang on to the past, bud. If we go 10-2 or better, I don't expect you to jump on the bandwagon. You're too invested in the negative
Posted on 4/20/19 at 6:03 pm to RobbBobb
I’m not reading through this whole thread so I’ll acknowledge that what I state here could very well have already been stated somewhere along the way.
This is such complete and utter bullshite! It was crystal clear that Les Miles was not going to change his offense. It is not crystal clear that Orgeron won’t. Granted, the Canada relationship went south early in the season and he reverted because he felt like he couldn’t trust the offense. But that does not negate the fact that he attempted to address the offensive issues by hiring Canada in the first place. You’re one of the narrow minded a-holes who refuses to believe anything will change with the offense simply because Les Miles refused to change it. Frankly, based on the spring reports I’m pretty optimistic that the Brady hire is another genuine attempt by Orgeron to diversify the offense and make it more dynamic. You hope it fails simply because you don’t like O.
Also, I love that you say O’s results are exactly the same as Miles’ were. Do we need to turn things around against Bama? Of course we do. But in case you aren’t aware, Orgeron is 6-0 against Ole Miss and Arkansas whereas Miles was 2 and fricking 4 in his last six against those two teams. Yeah!! Exactly the same eh?
Go frick yourself.
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I just cant quite wrap my head around the total and complete acceptance of Miles 2.0, when many were clamoring to get Jimbo back when Miles 1.0 was producing the exact same results?
This is such complete and utter bullshite! It was crystal clear that Les Miles was not going to change his offense. It is not crystal clear that Orgeron won’t. Granted, the Canada relationship went south early in the season and he reverted because he felt like he couldn’t trust the offense. But that does not negate the fact that he attempted to address the offensive issues by hiring Canada in the first place. You’re one of the narrow minded a-holes who refuses to believe anything will change with the offense simply because Les Miles refused to change it. Frankly, based on the spring reports I’m pretty optimistic that the Brady hire is another genuine attempt by Orgeron to diversify the offense and make it more dynamic. You hope it fails simply because you don’t like O.
Also, I love that you say O’s results are exactly the same as Miles’ were. Do we need to turn things around against Bama? Of course we do. But in case you aren’t aware, Orgeron is 6-0 against Ole Miss and Arkansas whereas Miles was 2 and fricking 4 in his last six against those two teams. Yeah!! Exactly the same eh?
Go frick yourself.
Posted on 4/20/19 at 6:05 pm to LSU Jax
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But in case you aren’t aware, Orgeron is 6-0 against Ole Miss and Arkansas whereas Miles was 2 and fricking 4 in his last six against those two teams. Yeah!! Exactly the same eh
Compare their records against mid major teams
Posted on 4/20/19 at 6:08 pm to Damone
Way to upvote yourself right away. The Troy game was three fricking years ago and that history has not repeated itself.
Posted on 4/20/19 at 6:10 pm to Damone
To Miles credit, he did overcome a 28 point deficit to an 8-5 Troy team.
Posted on 4/20/19 at 6:10 pm to LSU Jax
It was two years ago. The same year as his epic loss to Mississippi State.
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