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re: Are expectations so low now, that some are legit upset at talk of getting a proven coach?
Posted on 4/20/19 at 3:20 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 4/20/19 at 3:20 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Winning his division doesn't mean much in the ACC Atlantic division.
Wow, Rog any momentum you might have had, you just completely destroyed with this one statement.
The CFP system has been in place for 5 years. A team from that division has been in the playoffs every year. A team from that division has advanced to the championship game 3 out of 5 years. And in 2 of those 3 years, they won it all.
When you factor that in with Dabo winning that conference in his first year, and Orgeron losing to a mid-major in his, Ed's leash needs to be very short under Woodard.
And we're not even going to get into Ed's first head coaching tenure vs. Dabo's, are we?
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Posted on 4/20/19 at 3:43 pm to League Champs
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When you factor that in with Dabo winning that conference in his first year,
He lost 5 games that year and the ACC Atlantic was a combined 36-40
You people would have stormed the ADs office
Dabo was almost fired after year two. Fans and boosters wanted him gone. The only thing that saved him was faith from his boss
It turned out to be a great move. Hires are deemed good or bad 3-4 years down the road, and fans are clueless.
This post was edited on 4/20/19 at 3:44 pm
Posted on 4/20/19 at 3:45 pm to League Champs
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This is the exact same logic that was used in removing Miles
Would you prefered les had not been fired?
Do you want Orgeron fired now?
This post was edited on 4/20/19 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 4/20/19 at 3:46 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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He lost 5 games that year and the ACC Atlantic was a combined 36-40
Dabo was almost fired after year two.
OK, now compare that to Ed's first 2 years at Ole Miss.
Posted on 4/20/19 at 3:48 pm to Madking
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Compare the two resumes and laugh at watching them try to twist and spin actual facts
Any knowledgeable college football fan doesn't even need to open the links you provided to assert that Fisher's resume is superior to Orgeron's.
Only the same few knuckleheads in this thread would actually try to make O out to be a better and more accomplished head coach.
Fisher is a National Championship winning OC and Head Coach. Nick Saban thought enough of him to offer Fisher the OC job at Bama when he took over the program. Jimbo went to FSU instead where he was an OC/QB Coach and the "head coach in waiting".
Jimbo's .783 winning % over 8 seasons is the highest in FSU school history. He won numerous ACC Titles and a National Championship as head coach while he was there.
Orgeron's best season as a head coach "anywhere" is 10-3 with a Fiesta Bowl victory over a Mid Major.
It's completely asinine to even make an attempt to compare the 2 coaches accomplishments as assistants and as head coaches. It's precisely this that defines the worth and success of a head coach. Orgeron must start finishing on top with titles next to his name for coaching comparison's to even begin between him and Jimbo Fisher.
Posted on 4/20/19 at 3:56 pm to League Champs
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OK, now compare that to Ed's first 2 years at Ole Miss.
Why?
Why not look at his time at LSU since that's the only thing he's going to be judged upon?
Orgeron will be judged rightly so on the 2019 season.
This post was edited on 4/20/19 at 3:57 pm
Posted on 4/20/19 at 3:58 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Would you prefered les had not been fired? Do you want Orgeron fired now?
This is foolish of you to pair these questions together.
Let’s look at results. Les had fallen off from his elite level and was consistently losing 3-4 games.
He needed to be fired because he was given time to adjust and didn’t.
Orgeron has never achieved elite status, and is consistently losing 3-4 games a year also, but he hasn’t been given enough time to call for his firing.
It’s not his fault he was hired. Now, if he doesn’t win some hardware this year, then it’s time to move on.
Even then I would hope we could keep him on staff because he is still very valuable to the team.
This post was edited on 4/20/19 at 4:00 pm
Posted on 4/20/19 at 4:00 pm to 00 Tech Grad
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This is foolish of you to pair these questions together.
Wtf? Did you read the post I responded to?
Obviously you didn't.
Posted on 4/20/19 at 4:06 pm to RogerTheShrubber
No, I had not read it. After seeing it I can understand your point, but it would have been much more clear to just point out the differences between the situations.
Most of us know O will and should get this year to prove himself.
Most of us know O will and should get this year to prove himself.
Posted on 4/20/19 at 4:10 pm to 00 Tech Grad
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but it would have been much more clear to just point out the differences between the situations.
I would prefer the guy answer for himself
Posted on 4/20/19 at 4:16 pm to RogerTheShrubber
His statement is just a year premature. 9-3 this year and it would be on point.
That said, I’d be surprised if we lose 3.
That said, I’d be surprised if we lose 3.
This post was edited on 4/20/19 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 4/20/19 at 4:20 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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But Dabo's two division titles in three years, with 16 losses make him a good hire according to you......
Yes. What's so hard to understand about this?
One guy had a history of losing, the other guy didn't have a history at all.
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Why?
Why not look at his time at LSU since that's the only thing he's going to be judged upon?
See, you want to include the entirety of one guys career (Dabo) and only part of the other guy's career (the coach here).
This is laughable what you're doing here.
This post was edited on 4/20/19 at 4:22 pm
Posted on 4/20/19 at 4:27 pm to Goldrush25
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One guy had a history of losing, the other guy didn't have a history at all.
Ohhh, the habitually moving goalposts of Goldfish
Posted on 4/20/19 at 4:29 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Head coaches burn out. Fisher is 23-14 in his last 3 seasons.
Posted on 4/20/19 at 4:29 pm to Goldrush25
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See, you want to include the entirety of one guys career
Well we would have to include interim, which shows Orgeron definitely can win, correct?
So we have you down as "Orgeron is a good hire" if he wins his division this year.
Good to know
Posted on 4/20/19 at 4:31 pm to 00 Tech Grad
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That said, I’d be surprised if we lose 3.
If we lose three he's definitely on the hot seat going forward. If he goes 11-2 or better, he's here for a while with the recruiting classes coming in
Posted on 4/20/19 at 4:45 pm to Spankum
After Nick sabin inherited belecheks Nfl championship mantre by espn talking heads and LSUs players making a God out of sabin . The rant thinks that there must be another espn supported God Coach out there some where ! Will we ever hear the end of it ?
Posted on 4/20/19 at 4:46 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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Head coaches burn out. Fisher is 23-14 in his last 3 seasons
What’s O’s record over his last three full seasons as a head coach?
Posted on 4/20/19 at 4:54 pm to Damone
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What’s O’s record over his last three full seasons as a head coach?
Over his last 37 games (same as fisher) he's 27-10. That's about as fair a comparison as you can make.
Posted on 4/20/19 at 4:58 pm to RogerTheShrubber
No, over his last three full seasons as the head coach of a program. His record is 22-16.
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