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Victim shaming not habit evidence in Gruver case

Posted on 4/12/19 at 3:09 pm
Posted by Stexas
SWLA
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 4/12/19 at 3:09 pm
Advocate article


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A jury won't be allowed to hear about Max Gruver's alleged alcohol and marijuana use when a former LSU student stands trial in the 2017 hazing death of the 18-year-old fraternity pledge, a Baton Rouge judge ruled Friday.


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Gruver's roommate stated in an interview that Gruver, who was on the LSU campus about 30 days, was "sober for maybe five of those nights," the court filing says. Another witness told the East Baton Rouge Parish District Attorney’s Office it was commonplace for him to see Gruver drunk, so he “did not think much of it when Max was laid out on the couch” following the hazing ritual, the filing states.


Sober 5 days out of 28 days is not a habit? Hmm...


Posted by Cump11b
Member since Sep 2018
2026 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 3:13 pm to
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Victim shaming not habit evidence in Gruver case


I wouldn't call it victim shaming exactly. however I do not see how his alcohol use and pot habit is relevant in this case since they were made to drink a frick ton of alcohol. Dude still took things a bit too far.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
79144 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 3:14 pm to
Kids drink when they get to college. I’m pretty sure the Ancients described it in detail. 35 years later I can tell you every drink special at LSU from those days.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 3:14 pm to
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East Baton Rouge Parish Assistant District Attorney Morgan Johnson called the defense request "victim shaming"

Posted by sweetwaterbilly
Member since Mar 2017
19351 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 3:16 pm to
I'm not saying the dude is right or wrong, but of course he's going to say anything to try and save his arse. I've always been of the opinion that if I were in Gruver's situation I would know when I've had enough and would have stopped myself. But I don't remember shite about being 18 and I might have very well succumbed to peer pressure. Sad story all around.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
66586 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 3:16 pm to
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Sober 5 days out of 28 days is not a habit?


nah, it's determination/dedication
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
16593 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 3:17 pm to
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Sober 5 days out of 28 days is not a habit? Hmm...


That seems fairly normal for a college freshman
Posted by Walt OReilly
Poplarville, MS
Member since Oct 2005
124694 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 3:18 pm to
This whole case is ridiculous. The dude drank too much alcohol and died. It sucks but it happens. No need to ruin another persons life.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 3:41 pm to
Drunk only 25 days in his first month?

This post was edited on 4/12/19 at 3:43 pm
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
19594 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 3:44 pm to
If that kid’s parents didn’t want him to be a nonstop partier, they shouldn’t have named him Max Gruver.
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
37382 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 4:19 pm to
His parents refuse to believe that their kid was anything other than a perfect child. The facts are that he shares some blame in this.

And the mom allegedly shares a lot of blame for even putting him in that decision if the stories of him not getting a bid so she called up LSU to force a chapter to take him and then her subsequently strongarming Phi Delt from cutting him are true.
This post was edited on 4/12/19 at 4:21 pm
Posted by MLCLyons
Member since Nov 2012
4710 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 5:15 pm to
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Sober 5 days out of 28 days is not a habit? Hmm...


That's basically like saying someone wasn't raped because they had 1 night stands 5 nights a week.
Posted by Isabelle81
NEW ORLEANS, LA
Member since Sep 2015
2718 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 7:55 pm to
Frat brats trying to cover their asses
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