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re: Andrew Yang
Posted on 4/7/19 at 11:08 am to LSURussian
Posted on 4/7/19 at 11:08 am to LSURussian
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A universal basic income (as exists currently in Alaska)
Wrong.
thank you
I dont know if classified as a "stipend" or profit share from O&G or what, but in no way do Alaskans receive UBI
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Posted on 4/7/19 at 11:08 am to tarzana
Alaska doesn’t have a UBI you disingenuous frick. They have an investment fund from oil revenues that pays out a dividend.
Scum misrepresenting shite - typical filth
Scum misrepresenting shite - typical filth
Posted on 4/7/19 at 11:12 am to tarzana
quote:
Could the Andrew Yang campaign gain traction, and become a viable force in 2020
He is just another educated dumbass........
Posted on 4/7/19 at 11:13 am to tarzana
Tell us whether Al Sharpton approves of him.
Al Sharpton is the kingmaker.
Nobody gets the dem nomination without his blessing.
Tell us what you think about that.
Al Sharpton is the kingmaker.
Nobody gets the dem nomination without his blessing.
Tell us what you think about that.
Posted on 4/7/19 at 11:15 am to tarzana
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a move to pardon all persons convicted of nonviolent drug offences, and a "trickle up" economic policy
Posted on 4/7/19 at 11:16 am to Seldom Seen
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This post was edited on 5/26/23 at 3:11 pm
Posted on 4/7/19 at 11:16 am to bmy
I can say with 100% certainty that trickle up economics is a pipe dream that will fail miserably.
Posted on 4/7/19 at 11:16 am to Uncle Stu
quote:They call it the "Permanent Fund Dividend" or PFD.
I dont know if classified as a "stipend" or profit share from O&G or what
It's from the earnings off of the oil fund Alaska established years ago from the billions of tax dollars the state collected from the North Slope oil extraction.
Every Alaskan resident receives an annual payment from the PFD and the amount differs every year adjusted to the earnings that year from the Fund.
It's NOT a universal income. Every resident receives the payment regardless of their other income.
Posted on 4/7/19 at 11:18 am to bmy
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This post was edited on 5/26/23 at 3:11 pm
Posted on 4/7/19 at 11:19 am to LSURussian
It’s also not funded by taxing the shite out of anyone - it is an investment fund that is independent from all other tax revenues generated by the Alaskan government.
Posted on 4/7/19 at 11:19 am to tarzana
quote:
A universal basic income
Doesn’t fricking work and has been shown time and time again. It disincentives work and productivity
quote:
a move to pardon all persons convicted of nonviolent drug offences
I’d like to hear the specifics but this isn’t a terrible idea at all
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and a "trickle up" economic policy
Wealth redistribution that is based on more taxes and more regulations. This has again been proven time and time again to fail and fail spectacularly.
This guy runs in fantasies and landers to idiots that think kore government is better
Posted on 4/7/19 at 11:20 am to Oilfieldbiology
All this being said - the Dem Primaries are going to be a train wreck of galactic proportions so who knows if he can get the nomination or not
Posted on 4/7/19 at 11:22 am to Canada_Baw
quote:
I can say with 100% certainty that trickle up economics is a pipe dream that will fail miserably.
Yeah because the effects of supply and demand will suddenly vanish
Posted on 4/7/19 at 11:23 am to tarzana
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a move to pardon all persons convicted of nonviolent drug offences,
another bullshite leftist mantra that this will end prison overcrowding
from 538 no less
COUNTRY INCARCERATION RATE PER 100,000
U.S. 725
U.S. (without federal drug offenders) 693
U.S. (without all drug offenders) 625
"Suppose every federal drug offender were released today. That would cut the incarceration rate to about 693 inmates per 100,000 population. Suppose further that every drug offender in a state prison were also released. That would get the rate down to 625. It’s a significant drop, no question — these hypothetical measures would shrink the overall prison population by about 14 percent. (There isn’t data from BJS on the most serious charges faced by those in local jails, so let’s assume that no jail inmates are released in these scenarios.)
But let’s have some international context. Even in that extreme hypothetical situation, the U.S. would still be an incarceration outlier. Even without its many inmates who are convicted of drug charges, the U.S. still leads the world in imprisoning people. "
Posted on 4/7/19 at 11:23 am to LSURussian
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It's NOT a universal income. Every resident receives the payment regardless of their other income.
To be fair, Yang's UBI isn't based on income so everyone would get it. Unlike Alaska's setup though, the intent would be to use this to replace all forms of public welfare. Also unlike Alaska's setup, Yang hasn't outlined how this would be paid for other than savings from not having to pay out SNAP, Section 8, etc.
Anyone with an ounce of reason knows what would actually happen would be that we would end up with both. Anyone with anything more than basic math skills would understand that the savings from not paying out on those programs wouldn't come anywhere near to funding such a UBI program.
This post was edited on 4/7/19 at 11:27 am
Posted on 4/7/19 at 11:27 am to tarzana
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pardon all persons convicted of nonviolent drug offences
Nothing could go wrong with that.
Posted on 4/7/19 at 11:28 am to LSURussian
From what I understand, Alaskans get one check a year for about $1500. It varies but it hardly counts as an income.
Posted on 4/7/19 at 11:34 am to Brosef Stalin
quote:Kind of. The amount is adjusted each year. The lowest amount paid was in 1984 and it was only $331. The highest amount ever paid was in 2015, $2,072.
From what I understand, Alaskans get one check a year for about $1500.
The Alaskan legislature passed a law a couple of years ago to use part of the earnings from the oil fund to fund state operations. That has reduced the amount residents would have received in their dividend.
Posted on 4/7/19 at 11:45 am to Bard
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Yang hasn't outlined how this would be paid for other than savings from not having to pay out SNAP, Section 8, etc.
Anyone with an ounce of reason knows what would actually happen would be that we would end up with both.
A true UBI would result in a post-Apocalyptic Mad Max Social Darwinist world beyond even the wettest of an-cap/minarchist wet dreams.
When the government gives you $2500/month and you can't feed your kids because you spent it frivolously, what happens? There is no SNAP. There is no WIC. You're going to be begging for charity in the streets and eventually your family will starve and die.
There is a reason Neo-Nazis support UBI, and it isn't because they're liberal.
This post was edited on 4/7/19 at 11:47 am
Posted on 4/7/19 at 12:16 pm to Muthsera
I just watch yang explain his UBI, he said it would be considered a freedom dividend, AND it would be opt in... SNAP/WIC are still available but not if you opt in to UBI...
Like if you would receive more from WIC/EBT whatever incentives you get, you don’t opt in to UBI so that you can get more in benefits.
He argues by giving UBI people will feel less financially strained by working wherever for minimum wage because their skills are no longer valuable because automation so that they may decide to coach or volunteer their time or create a company because now they have free $12k/year
Like if you would receive more from WIC/EBT whatever incentives you get, you don’t opt in to UBI so that you can get more in benefits.
He argues by giving UBI people will feel less financially strained by working wherever for minimum wage because their skills are no longer valuable because automation so that they may decide to coach or volunteer their time or create a company because now they have free $12k/year
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