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Liberalism Is a Religion - Change My Mind

Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:11 am
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:11 am
As an off-shoot of the razor blade discussion, today, I contend that modern liberalism is its own religion.

Some have offered that it's centered on a "deification of the self" principle, where we are all gods in our own image.

I agree with that perspective, and offer that a healthy dose of moral relativism is included. This is why we're told by the left that "love is love", and all perspectives, opinions and outlooks are okay. (Unless they're a) Conservative, or b) contrary to their personal deity guidelines).

There are certain articles of faith that they hold up as true, in spite of any real proof of their existence: Muh Russian Collusion is an immediate example that comes to mind.

Donald Trump is held up as the Opposite Evil to the deity of Self.

What say you?
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:15 am to
No because you are correct....now end this thread because between the two of us we have covered it all.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
155433 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:15 am to
Progressivism not liberalism.

I used to be a Democrat. They went too far left.

Did I change your mind?
This post was edited on 2/4/19 at 11:17 am
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:17 am to
It is, 15+ years ago, they were cautiously anti-vaxx...

They were told the magic word: SCIENCE!

And now all they do is pass memes about polio around...

They are putty to the pulpit.
This post was edited on 2/4/19 at 11:18 am
Posted by jbond
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2012
4975 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:23 am to
It's a political philosophy. Big L Liberalism (separate from the liberal/conservative dichotomy in US politics) is something I would hope every poster here subscribes to.

Even if you're not a fan of Liberalism, it's definitely not a religion. It doesn't attempt to answer the same questions religion does.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:25 am to
There's also a healthy component of environmentalism (which could likely have a case made for that to be a denomination of the liberal theology) to be included as well.

In Christianity, all are charged to be good stewards of the land, the animals, etc, but under the guise of liberal beliefs, humanity is a scourge upon the earth and left to our own devices, we will singlehandedly wipe out the entire planet.

That role of humanity-as-environmental-demon is not up for debate. It's just taken as fact. (Another article of faith).

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:27 am to
Progressivism is a cult.
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:30 am to
This board is a Donald trump circle jerk and anything negative posted about him is downvoted and met with dumb shite like “orange man bad.” Change my mind by not downvoting this post.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:30 am to
quote:

This board is a Donald trump circle jerk and anything negative posted about him is downvoted and met with dumb shite like “orange man bad.” Change my mind by not downvoting this post.

I never downvote.

But, I did this time. Because you asked.
Posted by Jack Bauers HnK
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:31 am to
They even predict the apocalypse, what is it, 12 years until we all die unless we confess our sins against the environment and tithe the appropriate amount of money to Al Gore?
Posted by VoxDawg
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:31 am to
quote:

Progressivism is a cult.



That's a fair statement. I'd imagine it begs the question, though - "What do its adherents progress TOWARD?"

My answer to that is unfettered socialism/communism. Individual achievement has been branded as the root of many evils, but they refuse to address the track record of socialism/communism as being highly detrimental to anyone but those at the top of the party system. It's usually met with choruses of "Well, they didn't do it right in Venezuela/Eastern Europe/Cambodia/etc."

Plus, Animal Farm taught us that "All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others."
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
39604 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:33 am to
New Left Liberalism is a cult of personality that depends upon Lemmings and Stooges to enhance its sphere of influence.

It's the poor cousin of European Socialism and Communism.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:33 am to
A significant percentage of political "-isms" have some of the same elements as religion ... some more dogmatic than others.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:33 am to
Environmentalism is a religion.

Liberalism is a mental disorder.

Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:38 am to
quote:

I never downvote.

But, I did this time. Because you asked.


I just think threads like this are interesting. I grew up with so many religious people that vote straight Republican in every election without even thinking about the issues. So what distinction are we trying to make here?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:41 am to
quote:

A significant percentage of political "-isms" have some of the same elements as religion ... some more dogmatic than others.


Most, including religion are simply philosophies.

However the Social Justice movement seems to have many parallels to religions.
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17773 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:41 am to
It's more of a cult...

It's OK to murder our unborn children.
Men can be women if they 'feel' like it, and vice versa.
We must drastically change our lifestyle to combat climate change.
Racism is everywhere. Sexism is everywhere.
No human is illegal.
Health care is a right.

If you do not subscribe to these beliefs, you are a hateful intolerant bigot. You are what's wrong with this world and we will ill things upon you and your family.


Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
7069 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:45 am to
I think Statism is a religion. The type of authoritarian dictatorship where government is the sole arbitrator of right and wrong seen in the USSR replaces religion with itself. Citizens essentially toil for and worship the state as sole provider and protector.

Liberalism in itself is not like this, but it aspires to be.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:48 am to
quote:

It's OK to murder our unborn children.


Is this fatal attraction to defending abortion "rights" enough to infer that there's an element of human sacrifice that's intrinsic to the Progressive Liberalism religion?

They're awfully fixated on maintaining its place in their beliefs.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Member since Sep 2012
75729 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:52 am to
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Men can be women if they 'feel' like it, and vice versa.


This is in keeping with the "deity of the self" belief. Irrespective of biological facts, it's important to be able to remake one's self in the image that matches how the individual FEELS on the inside.

In most other religions, transsexual operations could be seen as an attempt to correct a mistake by The Creator, implying that a supreme being responsible for the blueprint that makes everyone who they are got it wrong in that specific instance.
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