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re: Declare a National Emergency for a border wall...$25 Billion.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 11:04 am to Robin Masters
Posted on 1/25/19 at 11:04 am to Robin Masters
quote:Lol Except cancer doesn't start huge and then get a lot smaller like the border "emergency" has in the past 20 years
Crisis was just recently called an emergency but had been developing for years without the title “emergency” in much the same way cancer develops and is then later called “cancer”
Those numbers would make today a miracle, not an emergency
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Posted on 1/25/19 at 11:05 am to Robin Masters
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You think illegals aren’t entering? Lol. Da Nile is not just a river bro. Lol.
Yeah, they are entering but it is at a 15 year low. in 2000 border crossings number about 1.6 million and now they are at 300k.
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Besides, how is no one pissed that this guy promised you a wall that was gonna be paid for by Mexico; and now you are completely fine and cheering him along while he mulls declaring an "emergency" to take tax payer money (not mexican) meant for different areas of spending.
How is this OK? If a dem tried to declare an emergency for something normally reserved for a political process you would have an aneurysm. Imagine, declaring an emergency to fund climate change initiatives or declaring an emergency to institute medicare for all. Instead of using the proper avenues. You all would LOSE YOUR MINDS. Yet, this prospect is awesome.
This post was edited on 1/25/19 at 11:06 am
Posted on 1/25/19 at 11:05 am to GumboPot
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Declare a National Emergency for a border wall...$25 Billion
This would never come back to bite us in the arse, never.
As mentioned before, climate change would then become a national emergency.
This post was edited on 1/25/19 at 11:06 am
Posted on 1/25/19 at 11:06 am to Jcorye1
Climate Change, Gun Control, Universal Healthcare. Just to name a few potential emergencies.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 11:09 am to AggieDub14
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But it wasn't before? At least not bad enough to shut down the government? But you can't explain why.
Again, just because something is today does not mean it wasn’t yesterday just because it hadn’t yet been indentified as such.
Is a stutation an emergency prior to someone calling 911? Or does the fact that 911 has been called make it an emergency? And if it’s the latter why would you call 911 if it isn’t an emergency?
This is what you are arguing.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 11:13 am to AggieDub14
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Climate Change, Gun Control, Universal Healthcare. Just to name a few potential emergencies.
What enumerated constitutional power do these emergencies threaten?
Posted on 1/25/19 at 11:16 am to Robin Masters
Still wrong. Everyone has said it's a crisis for a long time. Why are we shutting down the government now? You still cant answer.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 11:17 am to AggieDub14
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Still wrong. Everyone has said it's a crisis for a long time. Why are we shutting down the government now? You still cant answer.
Lol. Ok. You’re just salty cause I called you an idiot. Keep melting Junior.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 11:18 am to Robin Masters
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Again, just because something is today does not mean it wasn’t yesterday just because it hadn’t yet been indentified as such.
Is a stutation an emergency prior to someone calling 911? Or does the fact that 911 has been called make it an emergency? And if it’s the latter why would you call 911 if it isn’t an emergency?
This is what you are arguing.
Border crossings are at historic lows man. How is that an emergency. The majority of illegals here are people that overstayed their visas. Most of the hardcore drugs that enter this country are through ports. Same with terrorists, they come through airports. So what exactly is the emergency?
You should probably not insult the intelligence of some people on this board and just call it what it is: a political emergency. A way to circumvent established norms to eek out a "win" on a campaign promise.
I fully expect if he does this that it will be tied up in the courts and never happen. It is most assuredly unconstitutional. Yes, the president has the constitutional ability to declare an emergency and re-appropriate funds, but this won't meet the litmus test of an emergency in court.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 11:20 am to Robin Masters
You just keep repeating the same bad analogies and are unable to answer a simple question. Sad.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 11:25 am to keeper05
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Border crossings are at historic lows man. How is that an emergency. The majority of illegals here are people that overstayed their visas. Most of the hardcore drugs that enter this country are through ports. Same with terrorists, they come through airports. So what exactly is the emergency?
It was an emergency then and they kicked the can down the road today. Doesn’t change where we are now. Vast majority of drugs we catch is in ports. Says nothing about other means of entering country.
Dems have vested interest in keeping illegals flowing in so I’m not really concerned with your input as you lack credibility. And yes DJT was elected in large part due to immigration and wall. It is the will of the people you are obstructing. Yet another reason why it qualifies as an emergency.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 11:27 am to Robin Masters
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What enumerated constitutional power do these emergencies threaten?
Climate Change threatens National Security says Pentagon
In argument can certainly be made. Definitely more in earnest than this "emergency."
Posted on 1/25/19 at 11:30 am to AggieDub14
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You just keep repeating the same bad analogies and are unable to answer a simple question. Sad.
I answered it several times already. You weren’t really looking for an answer though.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 11:31 am to GumboPot
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Venezuela here we come
America 20 years hence = Fanny-Sway-La today.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 11:35 am to Robin Masters
You responded. But you never answered. That mental capacity is troubling you today.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 11:36 am to keeper05
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In argument can certainly be made. Definitely more in earnest than this "emergency."
The Pentagon is responding to the threats so how is it an emergency. When elements within our own govt actively disrupt and deter the pentagon from responyto the threats then it might rise to that level. You are missing the point because of your political allegiances. You have no credibility as you benefit from what emergency wall seeks to fix. You are a cancer cell arguing against benefits of chemo.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 11:37 am to AggieDub14
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You responded. But you never answered. That mental capacity is troubling you today.
Still salty I see. Sorry I offended you. I thought you were tougher. My bad.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 11:37 am to Robin Masters
No offense taken here. If anything I'm upset by your inability to give me a straight answer to my direct question. But you're so lost in your allegiance to a man instead of a country, you're unable to do so.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 3:30 pm to GumboPot
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You mean $32 Trillion.
No, I don't. But $2Trillion funded by taxes on investments would be a fun national emergency!
Posted on 1/25/19 at 3:33 pm to AggieDub14
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Future emergencies: Gun Violence Lack of Healthcare Climate Change This is not a road we want to go down. Unless you're into authoritarian government.
Revolution will be the result of this. So, do your worst.
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