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re: Declare a National Emergency for a border wall...$25 Billion.

Posted on 1/25/19 at 10:37 am to
Posted by Robin Masters
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Posted on 1/25/19 at 10:37 am to
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The funny thing is you condescend to me but you're incapable of forming a legitimate argument that actually answers questions.


No you are arguing semantics about subjective terms an everyone but you apparently knows that is a fools errand. You double down on this by trying to argue that because what something is today wasn’t that way last year that it cannot exist in your current form.
Posted by AggieDub14
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Posted on 1/25/19 at 10:38 am to
I'm not even arguing that. I'm asking YOU to explain it. But you can't. Because it's a farce.
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 1/25/19 at 10:40 am to
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Okay if there is a crisis, why didn't we shut down the government earlier until the wall was funded?



Because the Tom Donahue, the president of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce are busy lobbying GOP members of congress to look the other way. U.S. Chamber of Commerce members want the cheap slave labor they just pay cash for and avoid payroll taxes.

Also because the Southern Baptist, Mormons, Catholic Bishops, Methodist Church and several other NGOs (non governmental organizations) that make literally billions in federal grant money to process migrants lobby Democrats to look the other way.

Trump is finally the only politician that is shining a light on the border crisis as HIGHLY recognized by ALL media as other politicians are bought off to look the other way.

That is why.
Posted by AggieDub14
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Posted on 1/25/19 at 10:42 am to
You still didn't answer my question.

Why didn't the shutdown for the wall happen sooner?
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 1/25/19 at 10:44 am to
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Why didn't the shutdown for the wall happen sooner?


Because the GOP members of the house and senate that are purchased by the U.S. Chamber of Commerce did not pass legislation to fund a wall. Trump did not call them out because he needs them.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 1/25/19 at 10:44 am to
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I'm not even arguing that. I'm asking YOU to explain it. But you can't. Because it's a farce.


If a doctor discovers stage 4 cancer in your lungs, did you have cancer the day before? And Does that lunacy have anything to do with the cancer you have in your lungs today?

Posted by MarkFromBuffalo
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 1/25/19 at 10:45 am to
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This post was edited on 6/6/19 at 9:01 am
Posted by AggieDub14
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Posted on 1/25/19 at 10:46 am to
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Because the GOP members of the house and senate that are purchased by the U.S. Chamber of Commerce did not pass legislation to fund a wall. Trump did not call them out because he needs them


I appreciate the direct answer that took 3 pages of this thread to get
Posted by AggieDub14
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Posted on 1/25/19 at 10:47 am to
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If a doctor discovers stage 4 cancer in your lungs, did you have cancer the day before? And Does that lunacy have anything to do with the cancer you have in your lungs today?


So the lung cancer is the border crisis. You're analogy involves the crisis being discovered long after it developed. Keep trying. You'll get there. But this analogy is shite.
Posted by 9th life
birmingham
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 1/25/19 at 10:47 am to
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Because there are waves of caravans of people coming?!?


And not entering, despite the lack of wall. Again, where is the emergency?
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29996 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 10:49 am to
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So the lung cancer is the border crisis. You're analogy involves the crisis being discovered long after it developed.


Exactly. Welcome to the party.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119031 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 10:50 am to
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I appreciate the direct answer that took 3 pages of this thread to get




Trump can politically fight the Democrats for the wall. He can't fight the GOP.

Now, if Jim Jordan were the minority leader that would be a different story. Trump would have more power withing the GOP. Kevin McCarthy is cut from the same U.S. Chamber of Commerce mold as John Boehner and Paul Ryan.

Tom Donahue is a big fricking problem. We on the right like to target Soros but Tom Donahue is doing more damage to the GOP from within than Soros ever wishes he could.
Posted by AggieDub14
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Posted on 1/25/19 at 10:50 am to
So the border crisis was just recently discovered? So now you are contradicting your own previous statements. Quit while you're behind.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29996 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 10:51 am to
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And not entering, despite the lack of wall. Again, where is the emergency?


You think illegals aren’t entering? Lol. Da Nile is not just a river bro. Lol.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119031 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 10:51 am to
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So the border crisis was just recently discovered? So now you are contradicting your own previous statements. Quit while you're behind.



Do you understand the phrase "ramp up"?
Posted by AggieDub14
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Posted on 1/25/19 at 10:53 am to
I do. I was more highlighting the incoherent thought process of Robin Masters and their inability to actually have a discussion with someone who opposes their viewpoints.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29996 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 10:54 am to
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So the border crisis was just recently discovered? So now you are contradicting your own previous statements. Quit while you're behind.


You’re officially retarded. Crisis was just recently called an emergency but had been developing for years without the title “emergency” in much the same way cancer develops and is then later called “cancer”. What you call it doesn’t change what it is, was or will be.
This post was edited on 1/25/19 at 10:56 am
Posted by AggieDub14
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Posted on 1/25/19 at 10:55 am to
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What you call it doesn’t change what it is, was or will be.


Wow that's been my point from the start. So why all of a sudden call it an emergency? Don't answer that. You won't be able to.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29996 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 10:56 am to
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Wow that's been my point from the start. So why all of a sudden call it an emergency? Don't answer that. You won't be able to.


Because it is!
This post was edited on 1/25/19 at 10:58 am
Posted by AggieDub14
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14624 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 11:03 am to
But it wasn't before? At least not bad enough to shut down the government? But you can't explain why.
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