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Busted for deer sausage and raccoon carcass scandal, Louisiana man gets fine, probation

Posted on 12/31/18 at 8:48 am
Posted by Major Dutch Schaefer
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Posted on 12/31/18 at 8:48 am
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A St. James Parish man who led state Wildlife and Fisheries agents and sheriff's deputies on a high-speed car chase after he was busted in an undercover sting over an illegal deer sausage sale must serve five years' probation and pay a $1,000 fine plus other court costs, prosecutors said.

Before the chase that reached 95 mph and went through St. James and St. John the Baptist parishes March 14, Brandon J. Engham, 31, thought he was selling 10 pounds of wild deer sausage for $60 to a buyer inside a Winn-Dixie parking lot in St. James Parish, an arrest report says.

But it turned out Wildlife and Fisheries agents had been investigating Engham over allegations he was illegally selling wild game. They converged on him in the parking lot after the purported sale, setting off the chase that involved his nearly hitting agents and crashing into an agent's car to make his initial escape, the report says.


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In a plea agreement with prosecutors in St. James Parish, Engham pleaded guilty to aggravated flight from an officer, aggravated assault with a motor vehicle upon a peace officer, buying and selling wild quadrupeds or wild birds, cervid carcass importation, prohibited acts involving interstate commerce, and failing to keep records of commercial fishing data.

Judge Jason Verdigets of the 23rd Judicial District gave Engham five-year prison sentences for both the aggravated flight and assault counts and six months each on the wildlife and fisheries counts Dec. 17 at the parish courthouse in Convent. But, under the plea deal's terms, the judge ran the sentences together and suspended them in favor of probation, a fine and court costs.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
60632 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 8:53 am to
Im glad we took the time to set up a sting on this, deer meat is a gateway meat. Next time it would be whooping crane.
Posted by beHop
Landmass
Member since Jan 2012
14606 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 9:09 am to
I get you’re saying but we have to enforce these laws. The commercialization of wild game is what led to essential extermination of the American bison. Elk took a huge hit too. It’s a slippery slope. You don’t want every baw with a meat grinder out slaying everything on four legs just to make his beer drinking money.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
60632 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 9:16 am to
If my neighbor reimbursed me the cost of processing for 10 packs of deer meat I shouldn’t be s criminal

I would assume the guy was processing a legally taken deer and selling that. So I don’t care what he does with his own deer meat

I can imagine Winn Dixie doesn’t want him in the parking lot.
Posted by Ice Cream Sammich
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
10139 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 9:22 am to
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I would assume the guy was processing a legally taken deer and selling that. So I don’t care what he does with his own deer meat


Why would you assume that? He is committing an illegal act, but you think it was harvested legally?
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
25079 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 9:29 am to
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If my neighbor reimbursed me the cost of processing for 10 packs of deer meat I shouldn’t be s criminal
Agreed.

But it doesn’t cost $6/lb to have it made into sausage. Baw was selling it for profit and probably isn’t his first time doing it and was probably trying to sell meat to more than just family or friends if LDWF was setting up a sting operation
This post was edited on 12/31/18 at 9:31 am
Posted by CommunityCollegeFTW
Member since Apr 2011
19144 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 9:30 am to
Because he wasn’t charged with poaching?

Also people in the OT thread completely missed the point. This law isn’t to keep unhealthy meat out of the hands of parking lot buyers, it’s to stop the commercialization of a game animal. I get it’s not the end of the world but it’s important nonetheless.
This post was edited on 12/31/18 at 9:31 am
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
60632 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 9:31 am to
Profit or not I only have a problem if he had violated bag limits or taken the animal illegally.

If he uses his personal tags within the rules I don’t care if the meat freezer burns in his freezer or if he sells it
Posted by HotKoolaid
Member since Oct 2017
444 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 9:43 am to
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Profit or not I only have a problem if he had violated bag limits or taken the animal illegally.

If he uses his personal tags within the rules I don’t care if the meat freezer burns in his freezer or if he sells it



It may seem petty, but you should care. Those deer are not his to sell.
Posted by 257WBY
Member since Feb 2014
7180 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 9:46 am to
He ran from the law. Bad move.
Posted by saray
Member since May 2014
507 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 9:57 am to
what about endangering the life of the game agents and others in chase - judge/DA were useless- should have got some jail time
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 10:07 am to
If you’re gonna hunt and take game, follow the rules. That means all of them.

Every hunter would love to be able to hunt and make money. Let people start selling sausage @ $6/lb (higher for blackstrap) and the cooper stealing rednecks are about to start having a lot more fun and make money.

If you believe this guy making $60 for 10 pounds of sausage just had some extra he was trying to unload then I have some ocean front property in Az to sell you.


Posted by Lsuducktiger
Swla
Member since Nov 2011
116 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 10:10 am to
But its ok for the state to sell them? Like said earlier, if he bought lic. And legally killed the deer, who cares what he does with the meat? It's ok for a processor to buttrape you to make sausage and sell you your own deer back to you, but you have a problem with a guy processing his own and selling it? Communists I tell ya.

And if he did take the deer legally...then they are his deer.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
60632 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 10:12 am to
So these deer are over his limit?

We see people on this board talking about killing more deer than they personally consume and finding people that want it. Is there a big difference?
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 10:16 am to
So if my friend kills a deer, i cant pay him for the sausage hebpaid a lot of money to have made?
This post was edited on 12/31/18 at 11:13 am
Posted by Captain Ray
Member since Nov 2016
1589 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 11:09 am to
One thing yall forgettin that makes the government angry is they dont get their cut in tax money. Same thing with hoe made booze. It is the tax evasion that pissed em off
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 11:10 am to
Ok let’s say this deer was well within his limit. When he signed that license he agreed to hunt and take game knowing he could not sell the meat. By signing that he engaged in a sort of contract with the state. Well he didn’t follow the rule.

Nobody said he couldn’t give it away. He’ll, donate it to HFH.
Posted by upgrade
Member since Jul 2011
14623 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 11:17 am to
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I only have a problem if he had violated bag limits or taken the animal illegally.


I know it's only speculation on my part, but I doubt it was legal. People selling game don't worry about the rules.
Posted by LSUCouyon
ONTHELAKEATDELHI, La.
Member since Oct 2006
11338 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 11:23 am to
To those not caring what someone does with venison as in selling it: do you not see a problem here? Not a chance for abuse, right?
Are you fishermen!?
What say y’all about a few ole boys going out daily and catching legal limits if sacalait or Bass and selling them?
No problem, right?
Posted by Lsuducktiger
Swla
Member since Nov 2011
116 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 11:38 am to
Whats the difference in selling a bass or selling a catfish? Fish is fish.
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