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re: How many losses does Patrick mahomes get to become MVP?
Posted on 12/23/18 at 11:10 pm to LosLobos111
Posted on 12/23/18 at 11:10 pm to LosLobos111
quote:
The chiefs were 10-6 with Alex smith at QB last year
Didn’t Alex Smith had the highest QBR in the league in this offense?
But Mahomes is “carrying this team on his back”.
Posted on 12/23/18 at 11:10 pm to LosLobos111
And? You act like Alex Smith is a bum at QB. He's a game manager and a fairly good one. He's not a great QB but he gets it done. Chiefs had a good defense 2 years ago if I remember right.
Not like any of that matters since it's based on this season. Mahomes is having the MVP year. If Brees would've played decent the past 3 weeks he probably would've had it but the offense looked anemic and he kept making awful decisions. Doesn't help he lost a huge game on the road on national TV where the Cowboys were trying to hand the Saints the win. He shite the bed.
Mahomes makes plays that just blow your mind. He's the future NFL. He's the young sexy pick. He'll be MVP. Brees is first ballot HOF so it's not like it matters anyway. Besides, if you've been paying attention to the media you'll know Mahomes is the one they want. It was Brees until about 3 weeks ago and Brees steadily let that gap widen.
Not like any of that matters since it's based on this season. Mahomes is having the MVP year. If Brees would've played decent the past 3 weeks he probably would've had it but the offense looked anemic and he kept making awful decisions. Doesn't help he lost a huge game on the road on national TV where the Cowboys were trying to hand the Saints the win. He shite the bed.
Mahomes makes plays that just blow your mind. He's the future NFL. He's the young sexy pick. He'll be MVP. Brees is first ballot HOF so it's not like it matters anyway. Besides, if you've been paying attention to the media you'll know Mahomes is the one they want. It was Brees until about 3 weeks ago and Brees steadily let that gap widen.
This post was edited on 12/23/18 at 11:14 pm
Posted on 12/23/18 at 11:11 pm to BayouRat15
If stats mattered, Brees would have 5 MVPs right now. But they always tend to give it to the best player on the best team every year, hence why Brees never won. If this is the case, the MVP should go to Brees this year.
Posted on 12/23/18 at 11:14 pm to deuce985
You were acting like the chiefs are a bunch of bums being carried by Mahomes when that is factually untrue
Also by your logic he lost that rams game too on MNF
And the pats game
And the Chargers game
And nearly the Ravens game
His track record against the good team in the league in the league isn't inspiring
But Muh stats
Also by your logic he lost that rams game too on MNF
And the pats game
And the Chargers game
And nearly the Ravens game
His track record against the good team in the league in the league isn't inspiring
But Muh stats
This post was edited on 12/23/18 at 11:16 pm
Posted on 12/23/18 at 11:14 pm to agregime1
List those stats please
Posted on 12/23/18 at 11:14 pm to whoa
Brees' numbers would be prettty insane with Kelce and Hill
Mahomes turns the ball over and has lost a bit more.
This game should count, just like Brees the past couple of weeks..
I would still lean Mahomes, but I have some non Saints fans still say Brees should get MVP.. so now IDK..
Mahomes turns the ball over and has lost a bit more.
This game should count, just like Brees the past couple of weeks..
I would still lean Mahomes, but I have some non Saints fans still say Brees should get MVP.. so now IDK..
Posted on 12/23/18 at 11:18 pm to A Menace to Sobriety
Well, MVP is about delivering wins right?
While Brees was cobbling together a couple tough wins down the stretch to sew up the 1 seed, Mahomes lost three of his last five and goes onto week 17 fighting for a bye.
While Brees was cobbling together a couple tough wins down the stretch to sew up the 1 seed, Mahomes lost three of his last five and goes onto week 17 fighting for a bye.
Posted on 12/23/18 at 11:19 pm to LosLobos111
If Mahomes got hurt the Chiefs wouldn't win a game this year. So I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. Their defense is awful and I doubt the guy behind Mahomes is going to be able to put points up.
So yes, Mahomes carries the Chiefs because he gets nothing from his defense similar to Brees did in his big stat years. Just face it if New Orleans wasn't such a small market they would've gave it to Brees a few times. Mahomes will get it since the media loves him and sees the future NFL in him even if KC isn't exactly a big market either.
So yes, Mahomes carries the Chiefs because he gets nothing from his defense similar to Brees did in his big stat years. Just face it if New Orleans wasn't such a small market they would've gave it to Brees a few times. Mahomes will get it since the media loves him and sees the future NFL in him even if KC isn't exactly a big market either.
Posted on 12/23/18 at 11:20 pm to deuce985
quote:
If Brees got hurt the Saints wouldn't win a game this year.
Posted on 12/23/18 at 11:21 pm to deuce985
quote:lol
If Mahomes got hurt the Chiefs wouldn't win a game this year
Posted on 12/23/18 at 11:22 pm to Vacherie Saint
Nah, defense carried them in the 3 road games.
Posted on 12/23/18 at 11:23 pm to shel311
What's funny? Do you think the backup to Mahomes could put up 30+ points a week to win? Because that's what it takes with KC's defense. Even with all those weapons I seriously doubt it. Mahomes is a generational talent. Take your glasses off.
Posted on 12/23/18 at 11:24 pm to BayouRat15
like both QB's, but it's basically,
Mahomes is the Snapchat/Instagram/15 minutes of fame world we live in MVP this year. He's the trendy and sexy choice.
Brees is the top to bottom best and most logical choice for MVP this year.
like others have posted, if it were only about flashy highlight reels of great touchdown passes, then Brees would have won the award several times already.
Mahomes is the Snapchat/Instagram/15 minutes of fame world we live in MVP this year. He's the trendy and sexy choice.
Brees is the top to bottom best and most logical choice for MVP this year.
like others have posted, if it were only about flashy highlight reels of great touchdown passes, then Brees would have won the award several times already.
Posted on 12/23/18 at 11:25 pm to deuce985
quote:You thinking KC would be 0-15 without Mahomes.
What's funny?
Posted on 12/23/18 at 11:26 pm to deuce985
Mahomes can have whatever stats he wants but the proofs in the pudding
He can't get it done in the clutch
He can't get it done in the clutch
Posted on 12/23/18 at 11:27 pm to deuce985
The chiefs have had double digit wins the 2 seasons prior to Mahomes. He is not carrying them. Yes their defense needs lots of work but they are loaded on offense and have been for a few years now.
Posted on 12/23/18 at 11:28 pm to BayouRat15
The difference the past 2 years, saints run it in successfully within 5 yards.
Previous years they'd throw it in. That's like 10 tds alone.
Previous years they'd throw it in. That's like 10 tds alone.
Posted on 12/23/18 at 11:31 pm to cas4t
quote:There ya go.
The chiefs have had double digit wins the 2 seasons prior to Mahomes
Their D certainly has not been good this season but to say they'd be winless without Mahomes is just laughable. They'd still have weapons everywhere offensively. They've also had games where they gave up 23/14/10/23/21/14/21. I so the poster is essentially saying the Chiefs would never score more than 10-14 points a game.
Posted on 12/23/18 at 11:31 pm to deuce985
KC was great last year without Mahomes, and Henne is a good QB and former starter in this league. Andy Reid’s offense is great for QBs and always has been. He makes a valid point. I don’t think you can definitively say that the Saints are better off without Brees than KC is without Mahomes.
And the stat argument is weak. If our defense was dog shite and Brees had to throw as much as Mahomes, the stats would be about the same. Their passer ratings show us this.
And the stat argument is weak. If our defense was dog shite and Brees had to throw as much as Mahomes, the stats would be about the same. Their passer ratings show us this.
Posted on 12/23/18 at 11:32 pm to shel311
This poster you are referencing is a victim of the moment. Happens to casual fans
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