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re: What do you consider a cull buck
Posted on 12/15/18 at 10:05 pm to jackieMoon55
Posted on 12/15/18 at 10:05 pm to jackieMoon55
Can’t shoot this in my club cause we’re 6pt or better. Cant tell if he’s 1 1/2 or 2 1/2. He looks like a solid 150lbs.
This post was edited on 12/15/18 at 10:08 pm
Posted on 12/15/18 at 10:32 pm to jmh5724
He'd get rolled. Hes at least 2 1/2, probably 3 1/2.
Posted on 12/15/18 at 10:49 pm to jmh5724
3.5, back starting to sway and belly starting to sag. Your club sucks
Posted on 12/15/18 at 10:51 pm to CHEDBALLZ
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probably 3 1/2.
Um no.
Posted on 12/15/18 at 11:48 pm to Buster180
Is your picture universal?? You gonna tell me a 3.5 yo deer in Kansas looks like a 3.5yo in Louisianan??
Posted on 12/16/18 at 2:07 am to jmh5724
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2 1/2.
This. I'd shoot.
Posted on 12/16/18 at 6:19 am to rsbd
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You gonna tell me a 3.5 yo deer in Kansas looks like a 3.5yo in Louisianan??
Deer in Kansas will be bigger but the characteristics are the same.
He has no sway back. It looks like he is standing with his shoulders down hill. Look at how the feeder is leaning the same way. He has a a thin neck and shoulders.
Also, you are just throwing out buzz words. Deer will not have a sway back or sagging belly until 4.5 or 5.5 years old.
Posted on 12/16/18 at 7:26 am to jackieMoon55
It all depend what property a person is hunting. Cull is a term used way too much by people that just want to kill a buck before it reaches full potential. I think most would agree that a 2 1/2 + year old spike 3 point could be a cull. But I’ve been to a place where hunters would “cull” 4 1/2 year old BIG 8 points because they weren’t 10’s. Cull is a very generic word.
Posted on 12/16/18 at 7:40 am to jackieMoon55
A buck with cow horns
Posted on 12/16/18 at 9:41 am to jackieMoon55
I’ve always been told by geneticists that you shouldn’t determine the fate of a cull until he’s 3-1/2
Posted on 12/16/18 at 2:58 pm to jackieMoon55
I'm no expert on the subject but I watched my brother in law take a deer herd from laughable to enviable in a matter of a few years. The first deer they culled were does. Once they got the number of does down to what they thought was reasonable they started shooting any buck that looked like it did not have the genetics they were looking for. A two year old or older, skinny necked, small bodied spike was history. A 2.5 year old 6 point with no brow tines was history. I guess the easiest way to explain what they did, was that they preserved the bucks they wanted and shot everything else. They wanted big bodied bucks, with well formed racks, that had decent mass for their age. If a buck was not one of the chosen few, it died. Thinning the herd and providing high protein feed transformed that ranch into what I would call a poor man's trophy ranch.
One other thing. They owned this ranch and did not lease. So the first couple of years they let lots of friends come on the ranch and take deer. Otherwise it would have taken a lot longer to get the herd right. They would tell you what deer you were probably going to see at a given stand and which ones were off limits.
One other thing. They owned this ranch and did not lease. So the first couple of years they let lots of friends come on the ranch and take deer. Otherwise it would have taken a lot longer to get the herd right. They would tell you what deer you were probably going to see at a given stand and which ones were off limits.
Posted on 12/16/18 at 5:11 pm to jmh5724
Thats a 1.5. Yall age deer really old. I must be shooting 8 yr old deer
This post was edited on 12/16/18 at 7:25 pm
Posted on 12/16/18 at 5:27 pm to Theotherpikecounty
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Thats a 1.5. Yall age deer realy old. I must be shooting 8 yr old deer
they let their salivary glands do the work for them
Posted on 12/16/18 at 5:34 pm to Quatre Pot
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I’ve always been told by geneticists that you shouldn’t determine the fate of a cull until he’s 3-1/2
Probably some truth to this but it's not crazy to think that a 2.5 yr old spike is on the lower end of the genetics pool
Posted on 12/16/18 at 6:01 pm to SportTiger1
Would y’all consider this deer a cull. I let him walk this past weekend due to him only being 3 1/2 and we try and only shoot 4 year olds. This deer was debated pretty heavily whether we should shoot him due to him only being a 6 point.
Posted on 12/16/18 at 6:04 pm to jackieMoon55
No such thing IMO. There are inferior genetics, but on the hoof, that’s hard to tell. All bucks should be judged by age. If it 4 and little, kill it.
Posted on 12/16/18 at 8:31 pm to JakeMik
I’d probably shoot that. It’s not a deer that you want breeding in your herd.
Posted on 12/16/18 at 9:00 pm to JakeMik
I would not consider that a full at all. He may only get to an 8 but he could be a good one.
I also think he looks like a 2.5 to me. IMHO
Eta-if he happens to be 2.5, he could be a REALLY good 3.5 year old
I also think he looks like a 2.5 to me. IMHO
Eta-if he happens to be 2.5, he could be a REALLY good 3.5 year old
This post was edited on 12/16/18 at 9:04 pm
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