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Perspective on players leaving for the NFL and/or not playing in the bowl game

Posted on 12/6/18 at 2:51 pm
Posted by Buda
Member since Nov 2009
401 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 2:51 pm
Scenario 1:

Suppose you're a junior at LSU in engineering or computer science or some kind of tech field. That field is all you ever wanted to do. You came to LSU to become an engineer. You spent all your waking hours working and studying. You love it and all you want is to do it professionally.

In your junior year, you're approached by some huge worldwide tech firm. They want to hire you and pay you millions of dollars (with a multi-million dollar bonus) to do what you love. But the catch is: you must hire-on now. You have to leave LSU and not graduate. You have to give up the big group project you've ben working on with your fellow students and leave them behind. The company hiring you says "Take it or leave it. $10 million. If you don't come now, the offer is off the table."

Do you go and not graduate?

Scenario 2:

You are a starving art student at LSU. You are super-talented and everyone in the school thinks you are probably going to be a great artist some day (but that is not guaranteed - art is a fuzzy game). While still in school, you and your fellow students are putting on an art show. It takes months of preparation. Your art is the main attraction, but when people come to see your stuff, they will also see all the other students' stuff and they will get exposure because of you.

A week before the big show - after a year or so of work by all the students to get ready, a big art house tells you they want to buy all of your art for $10 million. They want it now and don't want to risk it being shown at the LSU art show because it might get damaged, etc. They say "We'll buy it now for $10 million, but tomorrow, the deal is off the table."

Do you sell?

Scenario 3:

You are a junior football player at LSU ....
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93960 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 3:11 pm to
The kid made the right decision for him and his family. Other kids may make different decisions because they have different wants and/or needs. People are different. This is the way of the world.
Posted by 1luckyguy
Member since Apr 2009
41 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 3:12 pm to
The incorporation of the 4 team playoff system has made any other bowl game obsolete and unnecessary. They need to take it to at least an 8 team playoff system to make more of these games relevant again. If not you will continue to see the best players elect not to play in inconsequential bowl games. The NCAA caused this issue and has yet to correct it. The pressure is being inappropriately applied to Greedy Williams when it should be on the NCAA.
This post was edited on 12/6/18 at 3:22 pm
Posted by Olric
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
1901 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 3:18 pm to
I have no problem with Greedy's decision, but his dream of playing NFL football does not go away if he were to play in the bowl game. Your scenarios are invalid
Posted by Paul Maul number 37
Member since Feb 2009
1111 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 4:08 pm to
Driving a car or being a passenger in a car can get you killed or injured much worse than any game of football. A pick-up game of basketball can get you injured as well. Is Greedy giving up all of these? What are the odds of injuries occurring in ONE game compared to getting in a car accident? Might be more, who knows. The point is that quitting on your team to avoid possible injuries is stupid, wrong, and selfish. What's he going to do in the pros when his contract is up for renegotiation? Quit, so he doesn't lose money from being injured? That's what NFL owners are being told by his actions. They are not going to pay him as much as they might have been willing to because of what he has done and he did it to himself.
Posted by Tiger997
Picayune, MS
Member since Jan 2006
666 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 6:18 pm to
Unfair comparison. Techs usually work until they're 60 or so, Artists always paint. NFL football players, not a lifetime job.
Posted by RileyTime
Gulf Breeze, FL
Member since Oct 2008
6944 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 6:34 pm to
None of those scenarios are remotely close to Greedy’s. The NFL isn’t asking him to play now, ya knob job.
Posted by Airpower
Member since Oct 2018
1101 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 6:56 pm to
What Mick said
Posted by mhc4tigers
Member since Aug 2016
4346 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 7:05 pm to
The ncaa should provide draft eligible juniors insurance. Easy for the bowl. Not that hard for a senior year. This has been done before. Scale the benefit based on projected round and average guarantee.
Posted by yallallcrazy
Member since Oct 2007
764 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 9:19 pm to
Here is an accurate comparative scenario:

Say that you aspire to a dream career, one that is highly lucrative and very selective. The only people that are ever considered for such a career need to have key skill set, and a body of work, that is absolutely not available to the person on the street. Possibly the skills could be obtained with highly expensive personal coaching which is not at all widely available, but the body of work simply cannot be achieved individually.

Now, some institution takes you in. It offers you the use of state of the art facilities within which you can build the requisite skill sets. While these would cost hundreds of dollars an hour on the free market, you get to use them for free for 20+ hours each week and more at certain times. They offer you the opportunity to at least potentially create the body of work that you would need, of course depending on how well you develop the skills. They offer you the opportunity to be marketed for this dream job.

Now, say this institution actually uses this developmental program to increase it’s prestige. This program is important to the institution’s identity, and while it is very profitable – a large percentage of the profits go back into the program to develop other young candidates like yourself.
The cost to you of acquiring this development and utilizing these facilities is simply that you participate in this program and help the institution continue to develop its brand for four years.

Now, you’ve completed three of the four years. Well, almost 3. Your dream job is offering you the opportunity to start a year early, and your institution has given you their blessing to leave a year ahead of time to take this job should it be offered. You have an interview coming up in a few months, but a big event for your institution is coming up. One that will Impact those remaining in the developmental program, as well as the leaders of the program that has put you on the cusp of your dream. This event will be viewed by more people than typically view the institution’s events, including many potential future participants, and is important in maintaining or improving the prestige of the institution

Should you say , “ nah, frick yall, I’m good. Imma big fish now. I’m gonna skip this deal so I can practice for my interview”?
This post was edited on 12/6/18 at 9:48 pm
Posted by WackyChris
Da Parish, Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
2795 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 9:54 pm to
tl;dr
Posted by Dalosaqy
I can't quite re
Member since Dec 2007
12324 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 10:09 pm to
Devin fricking White.
Posted by Airpower
Member since Oct 2018
1101 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 10:11 pm to
Greedy! Bye Felecia...

Signed,
Devin White, teammate with character
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 7:41 am to
didnt realize that engineering students were part of a team that is paying for that education and made commitments to each other at the start of the season

Greedy can do whatever he wants, but this is stupid baw
Posted by KTiger85
Member since Oct 2018
732 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 9:37 am to
No problem with players leaving early. Not playing in bowl when healthy is wrong. Buy insurance and play. Be loyal to team and school. Greedy deserves respect for hard work and making many good decisions to be in the position to even have this choice but he would not be in this position without his team or his school. How many great NFL players came from less visible schools and were drafted later because they were not as well known? Some damn good players are drafted outside of 1rst round every year. They don't have the option of skipping games. I could side with him if insurance were not an option. Respect those that helped you get here AND buy protection. Buy insurance and play!
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
36906 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 9:47 am to
Only scenario 1 is close to what's going on here. And if I could have left school and started work after my junior year you're damn right I would have.
Posted by Duck enticer
Crowley
Member since Apr 2010
1253 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 10:09 am to
First time venter on this subject.

To answer your question. My perspective is I don't like it. If I'm a pro scout I question his love for the game. As a fan I question his love for the game. In my opinion it is a selfish thing to do and shows he doesn't have the necessary passion for the sport.

What bothers me most is the precedent it sets. And don't try to argue that it doesn't set one. Players will notice what is being done and follow suit because this decision will now quickly become the new normal for highly projected draft picks...and possibly more players.

Playing devil's advocate....So what does high tiered players excusing themselves do for the bowl games? Sets a precedent that they are unimportant right? If they are unimportant why should any players play? Why should fans watch if the best players are not playing? The ratings will wane and bowl's will go away.

I equate it to what we now call the pro bowl. Some players play, while others don't. The ones that do play don't play hard at all. They don't tackle, they don't assert themselves. They dilly and dally while playing 7 on 7 basically. What has happened to the Pro Bowl? Ratings are waning

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You can equate this situation to any other job... like a fire man who is line to be the next chief. So lets say a big fire occurs and this individual who is used to putting fire's out says "No, I'm next in line for a promotion, I'm not gonna risk myself putting out a fire". Maybe the fire burns someone up because he wasn't there. Should he now be chief? Or be even eligible?

Really kind of the same thing in this situation. LSU got to this position as a team. Greedy's a part, he can't exclude himself from the team.

How about college. Can you just miss a final where your grades hang in the balance? Your grades determine your placement in the job field. In the curriculum I was in anyway. Its not a choice!

My opinion might not be popular, but It disturbs me that any player would even remotely entertain the idea of missing a bowl game. You can look at the bowl game as practice. Is practice not important in honing your craft?

I guess to end my rant I think College football is the last remaining bastion of intense, old fashioned knock their d*** in the dirt non political type event. That is now going away quickly.
This post was edited on 12/7/18 at 10:22 am
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 4:29 pm to
quote:

. You have to leave LSU and not graduate



Thug is, NOTHING is preventing the guys who leave early for the NFL from graduating.

Lots have players have left early and still earned their degrees at some point.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56712 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 10:28 pm to
Neither 1 or 2 is similar to 3.

I am sorry you wasted your time typing all that shite out
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