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re: Do you believe in the Fermi Paradox: The Great Filter?

Posted on 11/20/18 at 4:09 pm to
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 11/20/18 at 4:09 pm to
The Great Filter is scary. What's frightening is the Dark Forest theory:

-All life desires to stay alive.
-There is no way to know if other lifeforms can or will destroy you if given a chance.
-Lacking assurances, the safest option for any species is to annihilate other life forms before they have a chance to do the same.

Basically eliminate all life you discover before it can eliminate you. And we've been broadcasting our location for decades.
Posted by EventHorizon
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 11/20/18 at 4:21 pm to
Except, our broadcast have hardly covered any space even in just our own galaxy

Posted by MusclesofBrussels
Member since Dec 2015
4567 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 5:29 pm to
quote:

What's frightening is the Dark Forest theory:

-All life desires to stay alive.
-There is no way to know if other lifeforms can or will destroy you if given a chance.
-Lacking assurances, the safest option for any species is to annihilate other life forms before they have a chance to do the same.


Somebody has read the three body problem

Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6501 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 5:40 pm to
quote:

The Great Filter is scary. What's frightening is the Dark Forest theory:

-All life desires to stay alive.
-There is no way to know if other lifeforms can or will destroy you if given a chance.
-Lacking assurances, the safest option for any species is to annihilate other life forms before they have a chance to do the same.

Basically eliminate all life you discover before it can eliminate you. And we've been broadcasting our location for decades.




Dark forest theory is already discredited. There are numerous examples of symbiosis in nature. In fact evolution trends to niche specialization and utilization of resources in ways that avoid competition.

I am unaware of any species that specialize or even generally use a tactic of annihilating other species as self defense. This seems extremely unlikely as this strategy seems to maximize potential conflict, which makes 0 sense from a logical or evolutionary standpoint.

This post was edited on 11/20/18 at 5:53 pm
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
65036 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 8:29 pm to
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And we've been broadcasting our location for decades.


I’ve always thought this was incredibly stupid for us to do. Just looking at our own history, anytime an advanced civilization has encountered a less developed civilization, the end result has always been the eventual destruction of the less developed civilization.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 10:33 pm to
quote:

What's frightening is the Dark Forest theory:

-All life desires to stay alive.
-There is no way to know if other lifeforms can or will destroy you if given a chance.
-Lacking assurances, the safest option for any species is to annihilate other life forms before they have a chance to do the same.

Basically eliminate all life you discover before it can eliminate you. And we've been broadcasting our location for decades.


Ehhh im not buying it. Space is just incredibly vast and tracking inferior species down would be a massive waste of resources
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