- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Coaching Changes
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
Do you think the offensive stagnation is the OC or HC fault?
Posted on 11/18/18 at 8:06 am
Posted on 11/18/18 at 8:06 am
We have seen this same problem ever since 2009. OCs come and go but the problems remain. Why does the OC get the blame? Why isn’t O blamed for the offense like Miles was?
33
Posted on 11/18/18 at 8:07 am to Battle
Who has been on the offensive staff since 2010?
Posted on 11/18/18 at 8:08 am to Battle
Because he talks like us and LSU is his dream job
Posted on 11/18/18 at 8:08 am to Battle
Miss me with that straight sh*t.
Posted on 11/18/18 at 8:09 am to Battle
OMG ...the Dline coach was made HC and allowed to hire the TE coach as the OC
This isn't that hard to figure out
This isn't that hard to figure out
Posted on 11/18/18 at 8:09 am to Battle
HC, always. Even if it's the OC you have to ask who chose the OC.
Posted on 11/18/18 at 8:10 am to Oizers
It just seems like the HC is responsible for everything. If he wants a modern offense then he would make sure one was installed.
But there isn’t one.
But there isn’t one.
Posted on 11/18/18 at 8:10 am to geauxdroddz
I agree. I just don’t understand why E is being blamed. He is doing what O wants.
Posted on 11/18/18 at 8:12 am to Battle
Both
Posted on 11/18/18 at 8:12 am to Battle
quote:
Why isn’t O blamed for the offense like Miles was?
You don't think LSU fans blamed Cam Cameron?
Both are to blame. E gets it because this is his direction and philosophy which is limited because of his age/background/experience, etc. I think hes a good playcaller but his approach is dated. O is to blame because of his reluctance/approval to put empower someone in that position to progress the offense into this century. It's a leap of faith and when you can win 10 games and get a contract extension with the offense you have in place it's going to be hard to convince a man of his confidence that it's time to make drastic changes.
Thats how the best of the best think (guys like Saban, Walt Disney, Steve Jobs, etc) and O is not the best of the best.
Posted on 11/18/18 at 8:13 am to Battle
The downvote on my original post indicates people don’t think it is Os fault. This is just crazy to me.
Posted on 11/18/18 at 8:13 am to Battle
it's all on shrimp boat him and that damn binder this offense sucks
Posted on 11/18/18 at 8:15 am to Battle
HC - this is the offense he wanted.
Posted on 11/18/18 at 8:16 am to Battle
O should get most of the blame simply because he couldn’t take no for an answer and kept pushing the job on an unqualified candidate.
And I do agree that Steve is putting a hodgepodge of an offense together for something O has envisioned. I don’t get why O/LSU digs their heels in against a modern offense. It’s sickening what we trot out there on the field each and every Saturday.
I mean Bama had Blake smith out there like 3-4 years ago throwing for 28 TDs. He wasn’t even a real QB. We make it more difficult than it needs to be.
And I do agree that Steve is putting a hodgepodge of an offense together for something O has envisioned. I don’t get why O/LSU digs their heels in against a modern offense. It’s sickening what we trot out there on the field each and every Saturday.
I mean Bama had Blake smith out there like 3-4 years ago throwing for 28 TDs. He wasn’t even a real QB. We make it more difficult than it needs to be.
Posted on 11/18/18 at 8:18 am to Battle
Previous head coach. Our offensive talent is far below our defensive talent, and it has been since about 2008. It takes time to rebuild that. The only NFL talent we have on offense are second year or first year players. THERE ARE ZERO JUNIORS OR SENIORS ON OFFENSE WHO ARE NFL PLAYERS!!! (Except Burrow and Lewis who were both added by Orgeron)
Foster, Dillon, and Anderson will get tryouts, and one or two might stick in the league, but none are surefire NFL players.
I love Les, but he had become complacent. I was against O, but he is doing well enough restocking that the jury is still out on him. He has a great 2019 class commited. If he can hold it together, and add some DTs, he will have moved us in the right direction. Especially since the 2020 class is off to a great start.
Foster, Dillon, and Anderson will get tryouts, and one or two might stick in the league, but none are surefire NFL players.
I love Les, but he had become complacent. I was against O, but he is doing well enough restocking that the jury is still out on him. He has a great 2019 class commited. If he can hold it together, and add some DTs, he will have moved us in the right direction. Especially since the 2020 class is off to a great start.
Posted on 11/18/18 at 8:18 am to Battle
Yall are all acting like O hasn't made changes each of the 2 offseasons hes been HC. So far we are 9-2 with a special season still in hand. Let's get to the bowl break and offseason and see what changes get made and then make judgement. The amount of negativity you guys have in the midst of a very good season is ridiculous. Criticism is ok but some of the comments here would make you think we are talking about a 6 or 7 win team spiraling down the toilet.
Posted on 11/18/18 at 8:18 am to Stud Bud
quote:
We make it more difficult than it needs to be.
You said it all right there.
Posted on 11/18/18 at 8:19 am to Battle
Well who fired a good OC and replaced him with a bad one?
Posted on 11/18/18 at 8:20 am to Sailin Tiger
It’s not negativity, it’s the sad truth!
This post was edited on 11/18/18 at 8:21 am
Posted on 11/18/18 at 8:20 am to tduecen
I like O and think he did a great job with this team going 9-2 up to now. However, if he leaves Canada we have a much better offense this year but probably the same record or a good chance we beat Florida. Since he did not get a long with Canada, he should have gotten a big name OC like Briles or pick a coordinator from the Mike Leach system.
Like someone said, we hire our DL coach who hires our TE coach to be OC... That does not pass the test for something new and fresh, and actually it stinks. We need a REAL OC who changes the mindset of our players as they are in the same OLD FUNK that has been LSU offense since the 2007 Gary Crowton National Championship, where we looked like a dynamic machine
Like someone said, we hire our DL coach who hires our TE coach to be OC... That does not pass the test for something new and fresh, and actually it stinks. We need a REAL OC who changes the mindset of our players as they are in the same OLD FUNK that has been LSU offense since the 2007 Gary Crowton National Championship, where we looked like a dynamic machine
Page 1 of 4
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News